1 00:00:37,470 --> 00:00:21,840 [Music] 2 00:00:44,430 --> 00:00:41,740 explode the bazaars are your e-ticket 3 00:00:47,710 --> 00:00:44,440 ride into the world of the paranoid 4 00:00:52,020 --> 00:00:47,720 strap yourself in as we traverse the 5 00:00:56,470 --> 00:00:52,030 universe exploring the unexplained UFO s 6 00:01:00,610 --> 00:00:56,480 ghosts Lost Worlds cryptozoology waters 7 00:01:05,109 --> 00:01:00,620 as well as other dimensions it's time to 8 00:01:07,359 --> 00:01:05,119 take back the night now your 9 00:01:13,650 --> 00:01:07,369 electrifying hosts of exploring the 10 00:01:19,020 --> 00:01:17,139 well I'm up here on this hill looking up 11 00:01:22,030 --> 00:01:19,030 into the sky and I've got such a 12 00:01:24,520 --> 00:01:22,040 pulsating headache there's some noise 13 00:01:28,690 --> 00:01:24,530 coming down from that UFO and it's 14 00:01:31,420 --> 00:01:28,700 really draining it's zapping me Tim this 15 00:01:34,840 --> 00:01:31,430 reminds me of the time I had my close 16 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:34,850 encounter in Warminster England the 17 00:01:40,779 --> 00:01:38,210 pressure is so heavy but I'm sure it 18 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:40,789 will be alleviated by talking with our 19 00:01:47,649 --> 00:01:44,810 guests and Tim a happy holiday why thank 20 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:47,659 you very much Tim happy Holidays to you 21 00:01:53,250 --> 00:01:50,330 as well and I'm glad to see that you 22 00:01:56,109 --> 00:01:53,260 survived your visit from Krampus Oh 23 00:01:58,240 --> 00:01:56,119 indeed but I did get a couple of lumps 24 00:02:04,539 --> 00:01:58,250 of cold but I'm sending him over to the 25 00:02:12,789 --> 00:02:04,549 White House yeah well cold coal is the 26 00:02:14,860 --> 00:02:12,799 future you know well it's it's re-edit 27 00:02:20,530 --> 00:02:14,870 free energy all you got to do is dig it 28 00:02:24,009 --> 00:02:20,540 up out of the ground that's right free 29 00:02:27,699 --> 00:02:24,019 dirty energy hey yes so what do you been 30 00:02:32,140 --> 00:02:27,709 up to Tim well I'm sitting here right 31 00:02:35,440 --> 00:02:32,150 now and by the studio here in beautiful 32 00:02:37,900 --> 00:02:35,450 Jasper Indiana and if you're if you're 33 00:02:41,289 --> 00:02:37,910 listening to us live you know that 34 00:02:45,789 --> 00:02:41,299 tonight is the longest night of the year 35 00:02:48,460 --> 00:02:45,799 so happy winter solstice do we could 36 00:02:50,680 --> 00:02:48,470 just go out now where this is the time 37 00:02:51,400 --> 00:02:50,690 to go and look for UFOs then we can stay 38 00:02:53,140 --> 00:02:51,410 out 39 00:02:56,020 --> 00:02:53,150 a couple of hours longer probably 40 00:02:59,370 --> 00:02:56,030 daybreak doesn't happen - what about 41 00:03:03,430 --> 00:02:59,380 7:00 a.m. or even after that maybe mmm 42 00:03:06,190 --> 00:03:03,440 I'm not quite sure now this morning when 43 00:03:08,950 --> 00:03:06,200 I was out it was it was just clear as a 44 00:03:11,490 --> 00:03:08,960 bell I mean you could see every star in 45 00:03:14,770 --> 00:03:11,500 the sky it was just so beautiful I mean 46 00:03:16,120 --> 00:03:14,780 when the meteor shower was supposed to 47 00:03:18,430 --> 00:03:16,130 happen a couple weeks ago it was just 48 00:03:20,620 --> 00:03:18,440 you know so cloudy here and we couldn't 49 00:03:22,780 --> 00:03:20,630 see a thing but this morning it made up 50 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:22,790 for that so i mean i saw i saw a few 51 00:03:27,430 --> 00:03:25,370 shooting stars nothing quite like you 52 00:03:29,320 --> 00:03:27,440 know the meteor shower well i I'm here 53 00:03:32,260 --> 00:03:29,330 in the middle of Manhattan and the only 54 00:03:35,410 --> 00:03:32,270 star I ever see is when I look into the 55 00:03:38,200 --> 00:03:35,420 mirror because because we have nothing 56 00:03:40,410 --> 00:03:38,210 nothing but huge buildings all around us 57 00:03:43,990 --> 00:03:40,420 in fact on the block where our 58 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:44,000 headquarters are located there is a 70 59 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:46,970 story hotel going up they have been 60 00:03:50,350 --> 00:03:49,010 working on the foundation for almost a 61 00:03:52,810 --> 00:03:50,360 year I don't even think they put up one 62 00:03:58,620 --> 00:03:52,820 floor yet and then on the corner of 63 00:04:02,170 --> 00:03:58,630 Fifth Ave we have a 57 story apartment 64 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:02,180 complex that seems to get higher and 65 00:04:07,030 --> 00:04:04,370 higher every day I know I get dizzy as I 66 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:07,040 walk by and crane my neck looking at the 67 00:04:13,030 --> 00:04:10,730 crane and all this other oh L evaders 68 00:04:15,340 --> 00:04:13,040 that they have it's just it's something 69 00:04:17,680 --> 00:04:15,350 else but I I'm kind of disappointed 70 00:04:21,520 --> 00:04:17,690 because the city has lost its charm 71 00:04:23,730 --> 00:04:21,530 everything looks the same just yeah 72 00:04:26,530 --> 00:04:23,740 that's them no there's no 73 00:04:28,300 --> 00:04:26,540 diversification anymore yeah you know we 74 00:04:30,220 --> 00:04:28,310 have the Flatiron Building we have the 75 00:04:32,590 --> 00:04:30,230 Empire State Building we have the 76 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:32,600 Chrysler Building and each of them were 77 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:35,450 done by a you know different architect 78 00:04:41,050 --> 00:04:38,690 and they are you know for the there are 79 00:04:43,690 --> 00:04:41,060 marvels of architecture for the times 80 00:04:45,909 --> 00:04:43,700 that they were built you know today it's 81 00:04:48,610 --> 00:04:45,919 like whoever is constructing a building 82 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:48,620 goes and buys you know either 83 00:04:52,630 --> 00:04:50,570 number one blueprint number two 84 00:04:54,130 --> 00:04:52,640 blueprint and you don't need I don't 85 00:04:55,810 --> 00:04:54,140 even think you need an architecture for 86 00:04:57,880 --> 00:04:55,820 this just go straight up and put in a 87 00:04:59,590 --> 00:04:57,890 lot of glass in Tremont's 88 00:05:02,110 --> 00:04:59,600 wondering what he may go and Lego 89 00:05:04,990 --> 00:05:02,120 buildings I guess that's the future 90 00:05:06,610 --> 00:05:05,000 along with cold can you imagine the 91 00:05:12,730 --> 00:05:06,620 Armus amount of cold it would take to 92 00:05:14,530 --> 00:05:12,740 heat a 70 story hotel oh no that's going 93 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:14,540 that's why they're putting that's why 94 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:16,130 they're putting that huge basement that 95 00:05:20,620 --> 00:05:18,170 they've been working on for a year you 96 00:05:23,890 --> 00:05:20,630 know for what like giant coal furnaces 97 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:23,900 then be right there plus must be anyway 98 00:05:30,610 --> 00:05:26,810 enough to talk about cold we want to 99 00:05:32,620 --> 00:05:30,620 talk about free energy an actually free 100 00:05:36,970 --> 00:05:32,630 energy in a sense made the news this 101 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:36,980 week Tim with this Pentagon disclosure 102 00:05:42,490 --> 00:05:39,770 on official Pentagon disclosure I guess 103 00:05:45,040 --> 00:05:42,500 you can call it right fishel Pentagon 104 00:05:49,659 --> 00:05:45,050 disclosure because apparently one of the 105 00:05:51,610 --> 00:05:49,669 reasons that the Pentagon was keeping 106 00:05:54,750 --> 00:05:51,620 tabs on UFOs even though they claimed 107 00:05:58,150 --> 00:05:54,760 they gave up investigating them in 1969 108 00:06:02,110 --> 00:05:58,160 was because they want to find out how 109 00:06:05,520 --> 00:06:02,120 these things operate and how they fly is 110 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:05,530 such tremendous speed and 111 00:06:13,570 --> 00:06:09,890 maneuverability well the you know the 112 00:06:16,659 --> 00:06:13,580 official report that came out with this 113 00:06:18,730 --> 00:06:16,669 was saying that you know they they gave 114 00:06:20,500 --> 00:06:18,740 it all up after after just a couple of 115 00:06:22,710 --> 00:06:20,510 years because they had you know like 116 00:06:26,620 --> 00:06:22,720 just stacks and stacks of paper 117 00:06:28,719 --> 00:06:26,630 paperwork from these sightings but 118 00:06:32,469 --> 00:06:28,729 nothing ever came from it which yes well 119 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:32,479 they leave 122 million dollars now ten 120 00:06:35,920 --> 00:06:34,130 minutes they had slipped us two million 121 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:35,930 we could have come up with the exact 122 00:06:42,850 --> 00:06:39,010 same conclusions in about an hour 123 00:06:45,070 --> 00:06:42,860 well they had their own you know pilots 124 00:06:47,409 --> 00:06:45,080 and military personnel having these 125 00:06:52,780 --> 00:06:47,419 experiences and you know giving detailed 126 00:06:55,750 --> 00:06:52,790 reports yet I saw a just a story 127 00:06:57,850 --> 00:06:55,760 yesterday where some astronomer was 128 00:07:00,580 --> 00:06:57,860 saying that oh yeah well these pilots 129 00:07:04,240 --> 00:07:00,590 were probably mistaken and what they saw 130 00:07:06,640 --> 00:07:04,250 you know I mean they're you know they're 131 00:07:08,500 --> 00:07:06,650 nothing rankles me more I was gonna say 132 00:07:13,450 --> 00:07:08,510 another word but we're gonna try to keep 133 00:07:17,200 --> 00:07:13,460 this work you know this show okay well 134 00:07:19,059 --> 00:07:17,210 nothing Frost's my asked more you 135 00:07:21,249 --> 00:07:19,069 yeah that well then you have these 136 00:07:25,120 --> 00:07:21,259 skeptics who you know they they weren't 137 00:07:28,059 --> 00:07:25,130 there you've got these these highly 138 00:07:30,460 --> 00:07:28,069 trained military pilots who know what 139 00:07:36,309 --> 00:07:30,470 the hell that they are looking at and 140 00:07:38,110 --> 00:07:36,319 they they have all kinds of flight hours 141 00:07:40,210 --> 00:07:38,120 and they know the difference between the 142 00:07:42,990 --> 00:07:40,220 planet Venus and something that's 143 00:07:46,689 --> 00:07:43,000 hovering over the surface of the ocean 144 00:07:47,890 --> 00:07:46,699 as big as a football field and what have 145 00:07:49,719 --> 00:07:47,900 you and then you know you have these 146 00:07:51,969 --> 00:07:49,729 astronomers like oh wow there are these 147 00:07:54,189 --> 00:07:51,979 pilots they didn't know yeah they were 148 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:54,199 mistaken they and they were seeing an 149 00:07:58,900 --> 00:07:56,690 optical illusion or you know a dolphin 150 00:08:00,909 --> 00:07:58,910 that was sick or something like that 151 00:08:04,719 --> 00:08:00,919 it's just it's just ridiculous okay 152 00:08:10,540 --> 00:08:04,729 there well it is in fact I see that my 153 00:08:12,939 --> 00:08:10,550 old nemesis James Oberg who either used 154 00:08:15,550 --> 00:08:12,949 to work for NASA or maybe still consults 155 00:08:17,050 --> 00:08:15,560 for them I'm not quite sure has has come 156 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:17,060 out with some negative statements of 157 00:08:21,610 --> 00:08:19,370 course on the sighting he once called me 158 00:08:25,480 --> 00:08:21,620 a liar on the air he needs a good smack 159 00:08:28,719 --> 00:08:25,490 along the side of the face it spent 160 00:08:31,149 --> 00:08:28,729 three days investigating all the reports 161 00:08:33,969 --> 00:08:31,159 that astronauts had made this was in the 162 00:08:36,519 --> 00:08:33,979 early 1970s I spent three days at NASA 163 00:08:38,199 --> 00:08:36,529 headquarters in Washington DC they let 164 00:08:41,649 --> 00:08:38,209 me into their files they even gave me a 165 00:08:43,149 --> 00:08:41,659 sheet that said photographs of UFOs that 166 00:08:45,130 --> 00:08:43,159 were taken by the astronauts and they 167 00:08:47,829 --> 00:08:45,140 made copies of the pictures and he said 168 00:08:50,860 --> 00:08:47,839 oh it didn't happen you know like he's 169 00:08:53,110 --> 00:08:50,870 spent the damn three days there nothing 170 00:08:54,940 --> 00:08:53,120 he just you know these these skeptics 171 00:08:57,069 --> 00:08:54,950 talk it's you know there's nothing wrong 172 00:08:59,470 --> 00:08:57,079 with being skeptical I mean heck no no 173 00:09:01,690 --> 00:08:59,480 there's a lot of things that that take 174 00:09:03,250 --> 00:09:01,700 place and we're skeptical uh but at 175 00:09:06,840 --> 00:09:03,260 least we're knowledgeable and we don't 176 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:06,850 go in with a preconceived notion about 177 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:10,010 any of this you know is in fact the 178 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:12,050 facts of the facts and we're going to 179 00:09:17,980 --> 00:09:14,930 find out tonight what the facts are from 180 00:09:20,829 --> 00:09:17,990 two fascinating guests that I can't wait 181 00:09:22,569 --> 00:09:20,839 to to speak with so Tim why didn't you 182 00:09:26,439 --> 00:09:22,579 introduce who we're going to be having 183 00:09:29,740 --> 00:09:26,449 on this evening oh my pleasure well we 184 00:09:30,740 --> 00:09:29,750 have a Rusk raw skillet and flurry 185 00:09:34,760 --> 00:09:30,750 Violetta 186 00:09:37,340 --> 00:09:34,770 I said that both those names correctly 187 00:09:40,310 --> 00:09:37,350 now russ has been a UFO investigator for 188 00:09:43,400 --> 00:09:40,320 the past 20 years and according to our 189 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:43,410 producer he has made several appearances 190 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:46,770 here on the K cor digital radio network 191 00:09:50,750 --> 00:09:49,050 now Russ has appeared in a number of 192 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:50,760 television documentaries and talk show 193 00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:52,770 and he's worked closely with local and 194 00:09:59,450 --> 00:09:55,970 national radio television and newspapers 195 00:10:03,890 --> 00:09:59,460 trying to get a good information out 196 00:10:06,230 --> 00:10:03,900 there concerning the the UFO mystery now 197 00:10:08,390 --> 00:10:06,240 Russell set up the British UFO Hunters 198 00:10:11,030 --> 00:10:08,400 group of UFO investigators and 199 00:10:13,640 --> 00:10:11,040 researchers that conducts unbiased 200 00:10:17,390 --> 00:10:13,650 scientific research into UFO sightings 201 00:10:21,140 --> 00:10:17,400 abductions and related phenomena also 202 00:10:23,120 --> 00:10:21,150 with us tonight is Florie Violetta and 203 00:10:24,820 --> 00:10:23,130 Florrie is a mother of four from 204 00:10:26,990 --> 00:10:24,830 Virginia with a background in the 205 00:10:30,560 --> 00:10:27,000 telecommunications industry she has 206 00:10:32,900 --> 00:10:30,570 witnessed a number of strange things 207 00:10:36,500 --> 00:10:32,910 while growing up but her life changed 208 00:10:39,829 --> 00:10:36,510 one night in early 2016 when she had her 209 00:10:42,620 --> 00:10:39,839 first UFO encounters now if Lori grew up 210 00:10:45,230 --> 00:10:42,630 on a hundred 120 acre property that her 211 00:10:48,290 --> 00:10:45,240 family owned since the 1800s and during 212 00:10:50,300 --> 00:10:48,300 this time there was no shortage of weird 213 00:10:55,010 --> 00:10:50,310 activities and I guess that has 214 00:10:57,350 --> 00:10:55,020 continued as she throughout her adult 215 00:11:00,770 --> 00:10:57,360 life I said you know I did have the 216 00:11:04,010 --> 00:11:00,780 opportunity to speak with her on the on 217 00:11:05,770 --> 00:11:04,020 the phone just about a week ago and as 218 00:11:09,260 --> 00:11:05,780 had she's had some remarkable 219 00:11:14,540 --> 00:11:09,270 experiences uh there in Virginia and 220 00:11:18,250 --> 00:11:14,550 apparently it's an ongoing epidemic of 221 00:11:22,579 --> 00:11:18,260 UFOs near her property well I don't like 222 00:11:25,340 --> 00:11:22,589 indeed indeed so I think let us start 223 00:11:28,100 --> 00:11:25,350 out with our friend Russ over there in 224 00:11:29,290 --> 00:11:28,110 the UK Russ exactly where are you 225 00:11:31,700 --> 00:11:29,300 located 226 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:31,710 finally in North Yorkshire on the east 227 00:11:39,230 --> 00:11:35,610 coast overlooking the North Sea how 228 00:11:42,940 --> 00:11:39,240 close are you to the ocean itself well 229 00:11:44,489 --> 00:11:42,950 if I spit probably you're going to see 230 00:11:47,849 --> 00:11:44,499 at 231 00:11:52,949 --> 00:11:47,859 way arrest if you if you've actually 232 00:11:56,429 --> 00:11:52,959 seen my videos on YouTube of the flying 233 00:11:59,069 --> 00:11:56,439 triangle coming out of file a bear I was 234 00:12:03,029 --> 00:11:59,079 just at the top of the road there about 235 00:12:05,459 --> 00:12:03,039 two hundred yards away from the the two 236 00:12:09,779 --> 00:12:05,469 flying triangles that came out but I 237 00:12:13,159 --> 00:12:09,789 will fill me and I live just on that 238 00:12:18,899 --> 00:12:13,169 sort of like world the main road there 239 00:12:21,059 --> 00:12:18,909 so you you have a UFO a group well to be 240 00:12:23,509 --> 00:12:21,069 quite honest and there's only a couple 241 00:12:27,539 --> 00:12:23,519 of us left 242 00:12:31,799 --> 00:12:27,549 you know after ten years or so you know 243 00:12:35,669 --> 00:12:31,809 people have got live to lead and live 244 00:12:38,809 --> 00:12:35,679 and sometimes families and and whatever 245 00:12:41,219 --> 00:12:38,819 you know getting the way of things me 246 00:12:44,489 --> 00:12:41,229 you know I don't really have a family 247 00:12:49,199 --> 00:12:44,499 and so just you know used to be me mum 248 00:12:52,169 --> 00:12:49,209 and my sister and sort of like I became 249 00:12:56,189 --> 00:12:52,179 a UFO investigator through my abductions 250 00:13:00,269 --> 00:12:56,199 you see my goodness haha wanted to find 251 00:13:02,639 --> 00:13:00,279 out what was going on and boy did I find 252 00:13:06,899 --> 00:13:02,649 out what was going on the differences 253 00:13:08,729 --> 00:13:06,909 that I filmed things that have shot down 254 00:13:11,039 --> 00:13:08,739 like being zapped while being filming 255 00:13:14,339 --> 00:13:11,049 after flying triangles coming out of the 256 00:13:18,919 --> 00:13:14,349 sea flying saucers fire one of the first 257 00:13:22,889 --> 00:13:18,929 flying men in 1980 in England day time 258 00:13:24,299 --> 00:13:22,899 which is all there on the a jet Kelly on 259 00:13:28,379 --> 00:13:24,309 YouTube boom 260 00:13:31,169 --> 00:13:28,389 Ross Kelly at UFO hunter and I think is 261 00:13:34,439 --> 00:13:31,179 about I put 20 videos most of mine but 262 00:13:37,289 --> 00:13:34,449 all copyright my copyright and a few of 263 00:13:40,979 --> 00:13:37,299 my friends like dock fire so yeah in the 264 00:13:43,949 --> 00:13:40,989 sky we've got a bald craft ball my craft 265 00:13:47,579 --> 00:13:43,959 been attacked by black flying triangles 266 00:13:49,439 --> 00:13:47,589 and the thing is when I had the 267 00:13:52,609 --> 00:13:49,449 documentary make is over here watching 268 00:13:56,059 --> 00:13:52,619 this free documentaries pulled me out of 269 00:13:58,319 --> 00:13:56,069 the documentaries I was edited out of 270 00:14:02,160 --> 00:13:58,329 UFOs we'd a need we 271 00:14:05,069 --> 00:14:02,170 Danny Dyer I think it was I had ABC they 272 00:14:07,739 --> 00:14:05,079 came over the lost videotape about four 273 00:14:12,090 --> 00:14:07,749 year ago a Christmas they did a special 274 00:14:16,109 --> 00:14:12,100 feature on the UFOs and I got a call the 275 00:14:18,749 --> 00:14:16,119 next day sorry because the videotape now 276 00:14:20,819 --> 00:14:18,759 in my line of business if I'd have lost 277 00:14:23,819 --> 00:14:20,829 something as valuable as that because 278 00:14:26,489 --> 00:14:23,829 you know these guys on a lot of money an 279 00:14:29,519 --> 00:14:26,499 hour you know to spend a day filming and 280 00:14:31,919 --> 00:14:29,529 then to solve like I have nothing at the 281 00:14:33,809 --> 00:14:31,929 end of it wow I don't know 282 00:14:37,530 --> 00:14:33,819 my bottle have been I'd have been down 283 00:14:40,079 --> 00:14:37,540 the road I've been down the road now you 284 00:14:43,470 --> 00:14:40,089 you've been involved one of the 285 00:14:47,179 --> 00:14:43,480 clippings that you were sending such a 286 00:14:51,660 --> 00:14:47,189 you weren't involved in the Welsh 287 00:14:55,100 --> 00:14:51,670 Roswell is that a UFO crash really 288 00:14:58,439 --> 00:14:55,110 you've never heard of it okay well I 289 00:14:59,429 --> 00:14:58,449 well I I might have of course there been 290 00:15:01,559 --> 00:14:59,439 that you know I've been reading the 291 00:15:03,569 --> 00:15:01,569 Flying Saucer review for so many years 292 00:15:05,039 --> 00:15:03,579 and in getting all this so literature 293 00:15:12,869 --> 00:15:05,049 why don't you tell us a little about the 294 00:15:14,129 --> 00:15:12,879 incident right well I was given a file 295 00:15:16,769 --> 00:15:14,139 of what happened 296 00:15:21,210 --> 00:15:16,779 on this night by a group of five men 297 00:15:23,720 --> 00:15:21,220 there's being at do you know like a 298 00:15:27,179 --> 00:15:23,730 men's club that was on the way home and 299 00:15:31,739 --> 00:15:27,189 they came across a landed craft at the 300 00:15:32,689 --> 00:15:31,749 side of the road they got out what year 301 00:15:47,159 --> 00:15:32,699 would this have been 302 00:15:53,960 --> 00:15:47,169 but 19 1973 yet wore in 24 1974 and so 303 00:15:58,259 --> 00:15:53,970 so what happened was that you know the 304 00:16:00,629 --> 00:15:58,269 chaps were selves like you know so like 305 00:16:04,769 --> 00:16:00,639 looking at this this craft and there was 306 00:16:11,189 --> 00:16:04,779 four aliens that got out of this this 307 00:16:11,940 --> 00:16:11,199 saucer-like object and you know shortly 308 00:16:19,770 --> 00:16:11,950 after 309 00:16:23,700 --> 00:16:19,780 was the military turned up and there was 310 00:16:28,350 --> 00:16:23,710 basically push it away you know I was 311 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:28,360 told you know basically you know lead 312 00:16:37,830 --> 00:16:31,930 this area now now fall of the the 313 00:16:41,180 --> 00:16:37,840 sidemen was in the car and actually and 314 00:16:44,550 --> 00:16:41,190 you you interviewed these gentlemen I 315 00:16:50,850 --> 00:16:44,560 interviewed let's say I interviewed two 316 00:16:54,510 --> 00:16:50,860 of the five and how can I put it I went 317 00:16:57,270 --> 00:16:54,520 to a meeting and they didn't turn up to 318 00:16:59,310 --> 00:16:57,280 start off with and then about a day 319 00:17:02,550 --> 00:16:59,320 later the reformed call and they said 320 00:17:06,060 --> 00:17:02,560 that there were a bit worried Mejia so I 321 00:17:09,530 --> 00:17:06,070 got home this witness statement and then 322 00:17:12,180 --> 00:17:09,540 I saw a couple of them but not together 323 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:12,190 because they were really scared we were 324 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:12,970 really scared 325 00:17:18,449 --> 00:17:15,010 well what what what did he what did the 326 00:17:20,490 --> 00:17:18,459 object they look like what what time of 327 00:17:25,079 --> 00:17:20,500 it this was the at nighttime 328 00:17:27,990 --> 00:17:25,089 yeah because right now they'd left this 329 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:28,000 this function right yeah this meeting 330 00:17:34,620 --> 00:17:32,410 and so they were driving on and you know 331 00:17:38,160 --> 00:17:34,630 after two you know 10 o'clock at night 332 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:38,170 because you know you had to cause back 333 00:17:44,640 --> 00:17:40,810 in them days you know saw white past 334 00:17:46,800 --> 00:17:44,650 10:00 in them are vehicles so it won't 335 00:17:49,170 --> 00:17:46,810 long after they've been driving and they 336 00:17:54,810 --> 00:17:49,180 came across this at the side of the road 337 00:17:59,430 --> 00:17:54,820 you know Mike was saying follow the men 338 00:18:01,320 --> 00:17:59,440 of Benning in the army and it didn't 339 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:01,330 like out of being trash and they were 340 00:18:05,730 --> 00:18:04,210 said you know solve like by the the 341 00:18:08,610 --> 00:18:05,740 soldiers and it's look you've got to 342 00:18:12,060 --> 00:18:08,620 leave and you know this area but as 343 00:18:14,790 --> 00:18:12,070 they're doing so they're deciding to go 344 00:18:16,470 --> 00:18:14,800 look at the other side of this hill and 345 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:16,480 look down on them to see what we're 346 00:18:24,090 --> 00:18:20,770 going on and what they could see was one 347 00:18:25,890 --> 00:18:24,100 of the guys had got out of this truck 348 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:25,900 then another one and another one that 349 00:18:33,840 --> 00:18:28,930 and that surrounded the actual craft 350 00:18:37,860 --> 00:18:33,850 there was factors also five aliens yeah 351 00:18:40,920 --> 00:18:37,870 and two looks as if there was hurt and 352 00:18:43,830 --> 00:18:40,930 there were been helped you know solve 353 00:18:47,300 --> 00:18:43,840 like out and while this is going on one 354 00:18:50,850 --> 00:18:47,310 of the troops had gone to the back of 355 00:18:53,100 --> 00:18:50,860 the actual craft and looked to be 356 00:18:56,090 --> 00:18:53,110 getting in and then did just shook dick 357 00:19:00,000 --> 00:18:56,100 the shook that of this slope and 358 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:00,010 basically maneuvered it and it was then 359 00:19:06,300 --> 00:19:02,650 put onto the back of a flatbed 360 00:19:09,420 --> 00:19:06,310 I am his vehicle and so are these these 361 00:19:13,140 --> 00:19:09,430 guys are in disbelief they can see an 362 00:19:16,650 --> 00:19:13,150 insignia on the craft the aliens of 363 00:19:20,190 --> 00:19:16,660 drugs insignia on like this one piece so 364 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:20,200 what they're wearing and there's the 365 00:19:25,230 --> 00:19:22,690 thing about it is the carrying the 366 00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:25,240 wearing I should say a belt k you know 367 00:19:30,930 --> 00:19:28,090 like a Sam Brown this is our big put 368 00:19:34,500 --> 00:19:30,940 some it like a some Brown side down hmm 369 00:19:38,430 --> 00:19:34,510 you know belt mhmm our view and I'm 370 00:19:41,790 --> 00:19:38,440 thinking wow you know well how long were 371 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:41,800 it was the object in the these beings 372 00:19:49,970 --> 00:19:44,770 actually cited I mean how long did this 373 00:19:54,420 --> 00:19:49,980 incident go on for oh we're about maybe 374 00:19:57,060 --> 00:19:54,430 five five minutes or so and then did the 375 00:20:00,420 --> 00:19:57,070 craft a coffer no one was put on the 376 00:20:04,140 --> 00:20:00,430 flat back on the flatbed truck aha 377 00:20:09,690 --> 00:20:04,150 uncovered and then this vehicle and the 378 00:20:13,980 --> 00:20:09,700 James you know basically went along the 379 00:20:17,040 --> 00:20:13,990 road out of the area right now the thing 380 00:20:20,700 --> 00:20:17,050 is when I started researching I saw like 381 00:20:23,340 --> 00:20:20,710 look to other things like okay it was in 382 00:20:27,090 --> 00:20:23,350 the sky have you bought there's a course 383 00:20:29,850 --> 00:20:27,100 line so I wrote off but this time had 384 00:20:32,880 --> 00:20:29,860 drawn him over Simon Schama me family 385 00:20:35,850 --> 00:20:32,890 and I had to go and and we my parents 386 00:20:40,269 --> 00:20:35,860 and so I said to a friend look I'm going 387 00:20:42,430 --> 00:20:40,279 to be riding you know to pay 388 00:20:45,549 --> 00:20:42,440 so can you you know solve light look 389 00:20:48,430 --> 00:20:45,559 after these letters and if I send the 390 00:20:51,399 --> 00:20:48,440 letters in with your address on and it 391 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:51,409 says yeah unfortunately the person that 392 00:20:56,009 --> 00:20:53,330 was helping look after him a mom and dad 393 00:21:00,700 --> 00:20:56,019 that passed away so I came back maybe a 394 00:21:08,740 --> 00:21:00,710 month later and one of the letters what 395 00:21:13,659 --> 00:21:08,750 I received was from the the Coast Guard 396 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:13,669 yeah hmm and what said was the jab knee 397 00:21:20,190 --> 00:21:17,450 anything on new records of acne non on 398 00:21:25,440 --> 00:21:20,200 this daddy well the 23rd the 23rd of 399 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:25,450 January 1974 well I've got a letter said 400 00:21:36,070 --> 00:21:29,210 looking through files that the boss is 401 00:21:38,049 --> 00:21:36,080 away my via Y will do is I will look you 402 00:21:42,490 --> 00:21:38,059 know sort of like in in other places 403 00:21:45,639 --> 00:21:42,500 Anwar via so then there were a telephone 404 00:21:48,190 --> 00:21:45,649 number on this this lady up and spoke to 405 00:21:50,230 --> 00:21:48,200 a number of and I always take my 406 00:21:56,080 --> 00:21:50,240 conversations by the way when I'm when 407 00:21:58,720 --> 00:21:56,090 I'm investigating right so no so Wacom 408 00:22:00,039 --> 00:21:58,730 was so I've got the tape and everything 409 00:22:02,830 --> 00:22:00,049 I've got about four tubes 410 00:22:05,560 --> 00:22:02,840 I've got a letter back saying that there 411 00:22:08,049 --> 00:22:05,570 was the called an exercise called a for 412 00:22:11,490 --> 00:22:08,059 flash exercise taking place around that 413 00:22:14,649 --> 00:22:11,500 this area Liverpool and North Wales 414 00:22:16,590 --> 00:22:14,659 expect 80 flashbulbs or 80 flashes of 415 00:22:22,230 --> 00:22:16,600 light and I think it was ten aircraft 416 00:22:24,909 --> 00:22:22,240 now that's a lot for like an exercise 417 00:22:26,830 --> 00:22:24,919 you know so I like at night time around 418 00:22:29,799 --> 00:22:26,840 this area which is pretty built-up 419 00:22:33,850 --> 00:22:29,809 Liverpool you know sort of like and so I 420 00:22:36,159 --> 00:22:33,860 like and you know the sort of like the 421 00:22:38,409 --> 00:22:36,169 way of the Welsh course liner and what I 422 00:22:43,330 --> 00:22:38,419 viewed the sounds and cities there 423 00:22:46,980 --> 00:22:43,340 soughing now a for a flash exercises the 424 00:22:51,279 --> 00:22:46,990 drop these illuminating bombs right yet 425 00:22:53,830 --> 00:22:51,289 to illuminate illuminate targets right 426 00:22:57,580 --> 00:22:53,840 so alright likes of 427 00:23:01,590 --> 00:22:57,590 ground troops also it's used over the 428 00:23:04,390 --> 00:23:01,600 scene for illuminating submarines right 429 00:23:07,180 --> 00:23:04,400 so does that go in on which is a bit 430 00:23:10,450 --> 00:23:07,190 strange these guys in the statement says 431 00:23:13,690 --> 00:23:10,460 that what had happened in an off sea 432 00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:13,700 sorry in that the Irish Sea right and 433 00:23:23,470 --> 00:23:18,890 that there was this going on where there 434 00:23:27,040 --> 00:23:23,480 was death charging this area and it was 435 00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:27,050 an area in the novel to put in Ireland 436 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:29,450 all right let me have yeah I'll hold 437 00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:30,890 that thought their arrest because we 438 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:33,530 have to go to our first break of the 439 00:23:37,960 --> 00:23:34,810 evening we'll continue this conversation 440 00:23:44,669 --> 00:23:37,970 on exploring the bazaars will please 441 00:23:51,399 --> 00:23:48,820 now back to exploring the bazaar with 442 00:23:54,399 --> 00:23:51,409 two of the most electrifying researchers 443 00:24:00,100 --> 00:23:54,409 in the Paranoid your hosts Timothy 444 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:00,110 beckoning and teamswiss alright welcome 445 00:24:04,630 --> 00:24:01,850 back to exploring the bazaar I'm Tim 446 00:24:06,730 --> 00:24:04,640 Schwarz in the first half hour of the 447 00:24:10,149 --> 00:24:06,740 show we were talking with rest Kellett 448 00:24:13,210 --> 00:24:10,159 and I I think Ken we need to bring 449 00:24:15,220 --> 00:24:13,220 Florian violetta into the program now 450 00:24:18,850 --> 00:24:15,230 she's been waiting so a nice and patient 451 00:24:20,620 --> 00:24:18,860 for us so it's let's get her on the line 452 00:24:26,409 --> 00:24:20,630 Florrie thank you for being with us 453 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:26,419 tonight well you know if Laurie and I 454 00:24:34,990 --> 00:24:31,610 met on Facebook mm-hmm actually and I 455 00:24:36,700 --> 00:24:35,000 had a conversation with her I know I 456 00:24:38,860 --> 00:24:36,710 knew she had had just from our brief 457 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:38,870 little the chatting and the messenger 458 00:24:43,389 --> 00:24:40,850 there I knew she had some UFO 459 00:24:48,149 --> 00:24:43,399 experiences and so we spoke on the phone 460 00:24:51,100 --> 00:24:48,159 and she has had a I guess since early on 461 00:24:54,039 --> 00:24:51,110 quite a number of paranormal experiences 462 00:24:58,440 --> 00:24:54,049 and an ongoing series of UFO events so I 463 00:25:00,700 --> 00:24:58,450 I was fascinated by the story she 464 00:25:03,360 --> 00:25:00,710 incident she told me and I said well 465 00:25:07,210 --> 00:25:03,370 Jesus we got to share these with the 466 00:25:11,110 --> 00:25:07,220 exploring the bizarre listeners so when 467 00:25:13,930 --> 00:25:11,120 she saw restarted at the the top here 468 00:25:16,810 --> 00:25:13,940 and how did you get involved in all of 469 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:16,820 this you did tell me about a paranormal 470 00:25:22,779 --> 00:25:19,250 experience that involved a cross when 471 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:22,789 you were growing up um yeah hi there 472 00:25:28,509 --> 00:25:25,730 thanks for having me um I just wanted to 473 00:25:32,649 --> 00:25:28,519 uh you know given listeners a little bit 474 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:32,659 of background yes so I grew up in you 475 00:25:44,220 --> 00:25:38,690 know the deep woods of Virginia I guess 476 00:25:47,830 --> 00:25:44,230 you would say so I actually had my first 477 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:47,840 remembered or you know us experience as 478 00:25:56,909 --> 00:25:52,490 I could say in 2016 early 2016 at the 479 00:25:58,420 --> 00:25:56,919 very beginning where my friend and I 480 00:26:01,420 --> 00:25:58,430 experienced a few 481 00:26:03,780 --> 00:26:01,430 encounters that really kind of changed 482 00:26:08,890 --> 00:26:03,790 our lives quite a bit as you would say 483 00:26:12,070 --> 00:26:08,900 but early I I was no stranger to strange 484 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:12,080 encounters in rural Virginia more 485 00:26:16,300 --> 00:26:14,450 towards the western part there were a 486 00:26:19,380 --> 00:26:16,310 lot of strange occurrences that that 487 00:26:24,100 --> 00:26:19,390 happened a lot of electromagnetic 488 00:26:31,620 --> 00:26:24,110 activity that was disrupted or not so 489 00:26:36,220 --> 00:26:31,630 you say electromagnetic guess a lot of 490 00:26:41,830 --> 00:26:36,230 TVs or radios that were shut off a lot 491 00:26:43,780 --> 00:26:41,840 of light bulbs exploding no this was 492 00:26:45,070 --> 00:26:43,790 this was this was centered in the 493 00:26:48,700 --> 00:26:45,080 household where you lived 494 00:26:52,570 --> 00:26:48,710 yes it's in near Charlottesville 495 00:26:53,890 --> 00:26:52,580 Virginia and it had been in our family 496 00:26:57,430 --> 00:26:53,900 for quite some time 497 00:27:02,080 --> 00:26:57,440 yes paper records and as far as the fact 498 00:27:05,290 --> 00:27:02,090 of the 1800s so yeah basically a lot of 499 00:27:07,990 --> 00:27:05,300 strange strange well how old were you 500 00:27:10,090 --> 00:27:08,000 when when this was happening um through 501 00:27:12,990 --> 00:27:10,100 childhood but as far back as I can 502 00:27:16,090 --> 00:27:13,000 remember remember around 10 11 years old 503 00:27:19,630 --> 00:27:16,100 we would have people that would refuse 504 00:27:21,670 --> 00:27:19,640 to enter our property they claimed to 505 00:27:25,690 --> 00:27:21,680 evil things were happening witchcraft 506 00:27:28,960 --> 00:27:25,700 and what was happening on our land we 507 00:27:32,410 --> 00:27:28,970 were my family was about Christians and 508 00:27:35,140 --> 00:27:32,420 we were missionaries so it was kind of 509 00:27:37,450 --> 00:27:35,150 strange when people even refused to set 510 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:37,460 their their feet on our land because 511 00:27:41,890 --> 00:27:38,690 they were a little bit terrified of what 512 00:27:45,070 --> 00:27:41,900 was going on so now what these strange 513 00:27:48,070 --> 00:27:45,080 experiences were going on I mean was 514 00:27:51,420 --> 00:27:48,080 anybody also you know seeing UFO 515 00:27:55,030 --> 00:27:51,430 activity taking place at the same time 516 00:27:58,300 --> 00:27:55,040 actually as far as I can remember that 517 00:28:00,580 --> 00:27:58,310 did not happen until early 2016 where my 518 00:28:04,510 --> 00:28:00,590 friend in are my friend and I began to 519 00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:04,520 experience some pretty strange UFO 520 00:28:09,550 --> 00:28:07,730 activity and it it really changed our 521 00:28:12,169 --> 00:28:09,560 lives I mean we had never really been 522 00:28:16,310 --> 00:28:12,179 into the subject matter 523 00:28:18,830 --> 00:28:16,320 and it just completely started and has 524 00:28:22,029 --> 00:28:18,840 not ceased to happen and that changed 525 00:28:27,350 --> 00:28:22,039 our lives at the early morning in 2016 526 00:28:28,659 --> 00:28:27,360 well has the the other weird stuff you 527 00:28:30,649 --> 00:28:28,669 know like you said like the 528 00:28:33,139 --> 00:28:30,659 electromagnetic phenomena and other 529 00:28:36,769 --> 00:28:33,149 types of things go you know has that 530 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:36,779 continued as well that has you know 531 00:28:41,810 --> 00:28:38,850 streetlights going out a lot of 532 00:28:45,289 --> 00:28:41,820 interference with our devices wireless 533 00:28:47,899 --> 00:28:45,299 devices cell phones you know happening 534 00:28:51,019 --> 00:28:47,909 and I'm no stranger to cell phones I I 535 00:28:53,539 --> 00:28:51,029 work with them and I'm pretty proficient 536 00:28:54,859 --> 00:28:53,549 and they're repair and whatnot 537 00:28:57,710 --> 00:28:54,869 especially when it comes to software 538 00:28:59,869 --> 00:28:57,720 matters but we've had a lot of strange 539 00:29:05,060 --> 00:28:59,879 activity happen with our cell phones as 540 00:29:08,779 --> 00:29:05,070 well what can you can you go ahead and 541 00:29:12,289 --> 00:29:08,789 tell us about the the experience that 542 00:29:15,289 --> 00:29:12,299 you and your girlfriend had sure um so 543 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:15,299 in the very beginning of 2016 I was at 544 00:29:22,669 --> 00:29:18,090 my best friend's house we were outside 545 00:29:24,649 --> 00:29:22,679 late at night around 11 p.m. and you 546 00:29:28,009 --> 00:29:24,659 know she kind of just looked up and and 547 00:29:28,759 --> 00:29:28,019 to the trees and said are you seeing 548 00:29:32,119 --> 00:29:28,769 what I'm seeing 549 00:29:35,599 --> 00:29:32,129 and they looked over and basically we 550 00:29:38,539 --> 00:29:35,609 saw these huge three gigantic balls of 551 00:29:42,109 --> 00:29:38,549 dim light they were dim they were still 552 00:29:45,919 --> 00:29:42,119 but they were you know mmm kind of 553 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:45,929 bobbing around a little bit they were 554 00:29:52,129 --> 00:29:48,330 just there they're just these three 555 00:29:55,310 --> 00:29:52,139 balls of light I guess the best word for 556 00:29:57,619 --> 00:29:55,320 them would be orbs and they they they 557 00:30:00,259 --> 00:29:57,629 were there and we tried to record them 558 00:30:03,139 --> 00:30:00,269 and our cell phone started to acting 559 00:30:05,479 --> 00:30:03,149 other things we tried and they they 560 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:05,489 drifted off with energy like a minute or 561 00:30:13,369 --> 00:30:10,730 two and just at all so the night sky and 562 00:30:15,229 --> 00:30:13,379 beginning that night for the rest of the 563 00:30:18,799 --> 00:30:15,239 evening into the early morning hours of 564 00:30:23,869 --> 00:30:18,809 the next morning we had a huge amount of 565 00:30:28,159 --> 00:30:23,879 strange UFO activity and it kind of has 566 00:30:30,159 --> 00:30:28,169 stop Simpson now do they do these did 567 00:30:33,939 --> 00:30:30,169 these orbs look like that they were 568 00:30:36,379 --> 00:30:33,949 attached to a larger body or were they 569 00:30:37,599 --> 00:30:36,389 you know floating around separate on 570 00:30:41,389 --> 00:30:37,609 their own 571 00:30:43,699 --> 00:30:41,399 well after we first saw them it was it 572 00:30:45,169 --> 00:30:43,709 was a little bit difficult to see even 573 00:30:47,059 --> 00:30:45,179 think about what was going on around 574 00:30:49,309 --> 00:30:47,069 them we just knew that they were 575 00:30:53,149 --> 00:30:49,319 together and they left together they 576 00:30:55,189 --> 00:30:53,159 started slowly drifting off and we were 577 00:30:56,539 --> 00:30:55,199 not able to capture footage of them even 578 00:30:59,059 --> 00:30:56,549 though we were able to capture some 579 00:31:03,559 --> 00:30:59,069 impressive footage a few hours 580 00:31:06,589 --> 00:31:03,569 afterwards of something else but they 581 00:31:11,059 --> 00:31:06,599 definitely were uniform together in 582 00:31:13,939 --> 00:31:11,069 unison drifting well how large where 583 00:31:15,530 --> 00:31:13,949 they would you say about four to six 584 00:31:17,709 --> 00:31:15,540 feet in diameter 585 00:31:22,339 --> 00:31:17,719 [Music] 586 00:31:24,619 --> 00:31:22,349 they were darker orange color they were 587 00:31:27,409 --> 00:31:24,629 not they were not extremely bright at 588 00:31:30,019 --> 00:31:27,419 all but yeah they were definitely 589 00:31:32,329 --> 00:31:30,029 together and drifting off into the night 590 00:31:35,059 --> 00:31:32,339 sky but but you you you didn't think 591 00:31:37,249 --> 00:31:35,069 that they were anything like a plasma or 592 00:31:40,939 --> 00:31:37,259 a ball lightning they seem to be under 593 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:40,949 intelligent control oh absolutely it was 594 00:31:45,859 --> 00:31:42,690 it was something that shocked us both to 595 00:31:48,019 --> 00:31:45,869 her core it was nothing like you know 596 00:31:50,419 --> 00:31:48,029 the ball lightning or electricity that 597 00:31:53,239 --> 00:31:50,429 people speak of it was it was definitely 598 00:31:56,569 --> 00:31:53,249 intelligent and you know drifting off 599 00:31:58,279 --> 00:31:56,579 together injuries well what what what 600 00:32:00,709 --> 00:31:58,289 did you think about this I mean how did 601 00:32:03,289 --> 00:32:00,719 it affect you did it affect you 602 00:32:06,049 --> 00:32:03,299 physically or emotionally or a little 603 00:32:09,109 --> 00:32:06,059 bit of both looking back we were both 604 00:32:10,999 --> 00:32:09,119 remarkable at how calm we were because 605 00:32:12,979 --> 00:32:11,009 they were so close to us they were right 606 00:32:16,159 --> 00:32:12,989 at the tree line between her house and 607 00:32:19,909 --> 00:32:16,169 her neighbor's house and I mean it's not 608 00:32:21,619 --> 00:32:19,919 that far away and so when we were it 609 00:32:24,559 --> 00:32:21,629 occurred to us that we should start like 610 00:32:26,989 --> 00:32:24,569 filming this you know both of our cell 611 00:32:29,629 --> 00:32:26,999 phones started acting up and we weren't 612 00:32:31,849 --> 00:32:29,639 able to capture that but I mean it 613 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:31,859 definitely piques our interest so much 614 00:32:36,060 --> 00:32:33,690 so that we spent the rest of the night 615 00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:36,070 outside with our phones 616 00:32:41,250 --> 00:32:38,490 you know trying to record anything that 617 00:32:43,830 --> 00:32:41,260 you know caught our attention it was 618 00:32:46,080 --> 00:32:43,840 something new to both of us and is not 619 00:32:49,140 --> 00:32:46,090 anything new to both of us since then 620 00:32:52,130 --> 00:32:49,150 but what you know looking looking 621 00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:52,140 looking back on it do you think that 622 00:32:58,350 --> 00:32:56,410 somehow the the these orbs that you you 623 00:33:03,660 --> 00:32:58,360 saw and you did describe to me some 624 00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:03,670 other craft or vehicles that you also a 625 00:33:11,220 --> 00:33:05,530 witness do you think that they were 626 00:33:13,740 --> 00:33:11,230 somehow involved with this paranormal 627 00:33:17,250 --> 00:33:13,750 experiences and the things that had gone 628 00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:17,260 on around your home earlier on um 629 00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:21,970 absolutely you know as far as soon as 630 00:33:29,820 --> 00:33:25,450 that first sighting started for the 631 00:33:32,510 --> 00:33:29,830 hours that followed afterwards it was 632 00:33:38,220 --> 00:33:32,520 really different it was really 633 00:33:39,090 --> 00:33:38,230 eye-opening and basically just it 634 00:33:41,670 --> 00:33:39,100 changed our lives 635 00:33:44,360 --> 00:33:41,680 um it changed my life going forward it 636 00:33:48,630 --> 00:33:44,370 seems her life going forward it 637 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:48,640 something resonates within me and that's 638 00:33:54,960 --> 00:33:51,970 why I kind of haven't been able to let 639 00:33:57,450 --> 00:33:54,970 go of the subject matter you know I see 640 00:33:59,160 --> 00:33:57,460 things now that I think any average 641 00:34:03,540 --> 00:33:59,170 person would if they actually stopped 642 00:34:05,250 --> 00:34:03,550 and paid attention so yeah definitely it 643 00:34:08,250 --> 00:34:05,260 was something life-changing within both 644 00:34:10,530 --> 00:34:08,260 of us that happened that night and and 645 00:34:13,410 --> 00:34:10,540 ever since falling forward 646 00:34:15,720 --> 00:34:13,420 well now you said that there were other 647 00:34:18,030 --> 00:34:15,730 things going on that night too one to 648 00:34:20,100 --> 00:34:18,040 give us a little bit more detail you 649 00:34:25,200 --> 00:34:20,110 know what else you saw when you you say 650 00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:25,210 you stayed outside all night I don't 651 00:34:30,750 --> 00:34:29,770 blame you I would have to actually we 652 00:34:35,340 --> 00:34:30,760 had all our phones 653 00:34:39,210 --> 00:34:35,350 I don't know I might I might have hid 654 00:34:44,280 --> 00:34:39,220 under the front porch I don't know it 655 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:44,290 was absolutely - intriguing for us we 656 00:34:50,909 --> 00:34:47,770 saw some cylinder see craft 657 00:34:52,859 --> 00:34:50,919 we saw lots of you know little things in 658 00:34:55,770 --> 00:34:52,869 the sky that resembled airplanes at 659 00:34:58,079 --> 00:34:55,780 first but then they weren't moving or 660 00:35:00,480 --> 00:34:58,089 they were moving extremely erratically 661 00:35:02,970 --> 00:35:00,490 they would change color and eventually 662 00:35:07,190 --> 00:35:02,980 we did manage to capture some pretty 663 00:35:11,690 --> 00:35:07,200 incredible video of something that was 664 00:35:15,120 --> 00:35:11,700 changing color and changing and shape 665 00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:15,130 dividing into parts it was pretty 666 00:35:23,730 --> 00:35:17,410 incredible that night I won't lie it was 667 00:35:28,829 --> 00:35:23,740 a incredible no and I don't know if you 668 00:35:31,589 --> 00:35:28,839 can remember or not but I asked this of 669 00:35:39,030 --> 00:35:31,599 a lot of witnesses do you happen to 670 00:35:43,800 --> 00:35:39,040 remember the days before this night if 671 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:43,810 anything unusual had happened to you 672 00:35:49,310 --> 00:35:47,050 non ufo-related you know before this 673 00:35:53,430 --> 00:35:49,320 this evening you know had there been an 674 00:35:57,630 --> 00:35:53,440 uptick of the X the electromagnetic 675 00:36:00,120 --> 00:35:57,640 activity of your house you know anybody 676 00:36:02,579 --> 00:36:00,130 you know unexplainably you know died or 677 00:36:04,560 --> 00:36:02,589 got sick or just just anything now that 678 00:36:07,079 --> 00:36:04,570 you would you know think back to before 679 00:36:08,180 --> 00:36:07,089 this happen ago you know that was kind 680 00:36:13,470 --> 00:36:08,190 of weird 681 00:36:17,460 --> 00:36:13,480 well I'm following a few strange things 682 00:36:22,530 --> 00:36:17,470 that happened but before him absolutely 683 00:36:24,839 --> 00:36:22,540 not you know there was nothing that you 684 00:36:27,150 --> 00:36:24,849 know let me think that anything was 685 00:36:28,380 --> 00:36:27,160 going to go on out of the ordinary at 686 00:36:32,550 --> 00:36:28,390 all beforehand 687 00:36:35,940 --> 00:36:32,560 and I wonder if that's why you know it's 688 00:36:41,250 --> 00:36:35,950 completely shocked me because I do have 689 00:36:42,900 --> 00:36:41,260 a few things that that manage to alert 690 00:36:45,960 --> 00:36:42,910 me when something's coming up ahead 691 00:36:47,910 --> 00:36:45,970 nowadays but no nothing nothing coming 692 00:36:49,859 --> 00:36:47,920 up to the incident that that completely 693 00:36:55,680 --> 00:36:49,869 changes now mm-hmm 694 00:36:58,829 --> 00:36:55,690 okay now when you say completely change 695 00:37:01,490 --> 00:36:58,839 you are are you talking about you know 696 00:37:03,829 --> 00:37:01,500 it's kind of opened your eyes that 697 00:37:07,730 --> 00:37:03,839 you know there there are things going on 698 00:37:11,359 --> 00:37:07,740 that we don't understand that you don't 699 00:37:14,030 --> 00:37:11,369 understand or do you think that that 700 00:37:16,839 --> 00:37:14,040 maybe it's something going on that maybe 701 00:37:22,099 --> 00:37:16,849 even a deeper level within you 702 00:37:23,930 --> 00:37:22,109 definitely those especially on a deeper 703 00:37:26,750 --> 00:37:23,940 level with it mean it has changed me 704 00:37:28,760 --> 00:37:26,760 with my friend she is a little bit more 705 00:37:32,450 --> 00:37:28,770 reluctant to speak openly about it 706 00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:32,460 um and it's I guess a lot of those 707 00:37:38,660 --> 00:37:34,650 tivity has occurred around where she 708 00:37:40,370 --> 00:37:38,670 lives and you know it seems that it's on 709 00:37:44,780 --> 00:37:40,380 a little bit more of an accelerated rate 710 00:37:47,630 --> 00:37:44,790 than what I witness the present day but 711 00:37:50,810 --> 00:37:47,640 yeah I mean I I would say definitely 712 00:37:55,790 --> 00:37:50,820 both and that's that's freaked her out 713 00:37:58,280 --> 00:37:55,800 hasn't it has what went out with her 714 00:38:00,200 --> 00:37:58,290 were there other witnesses in the in the 715 00:38:02,720 --> 00:38:00,210 area I mean what did you notice was 716 00:38:06,470 --> 00:38:02,730 there anything in the media on TV or on 717 00:38:09,380 --> 00:38:06,480 the radio or newspaper you know I I 718 00:38:13,970 --> 00:38:09,390 searched a lot especially that night um 719 00:38:16,190 --> 00:38:13,980 there was nothing um you know she has 720 00:38:20,300 --> 00:38:16,200 four children and a few of her daughters 721 00:38:24,470 --> 00:38:20,310 came to me and told me of separate UFO 722 00:38:27,530 --> 00:38:24,480 incidences that they had had within the 723 00:38:30,589 --> 00:38:27,540 past couple of years before him but I 724 00:38:33,680 --> 00:38:30,599 searched all over the media for any UFO 725 00:38:35,810 --> 00:38:33,690 sightings that night around the area 726 00:38:39,290 --> 00:38:35,820 even in the state and there really 727 00:38:44,120 --> 00:38:39,300 wasn't that much to speak of except for 728 00:38:47,589 --> 00:38:44,130 the video that we meant to take I found 729 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:47,599 a video of somebody that had posted a 730 00:38:52,880 --> 00:38:50,330 clip of the International Space Station 731 00:38:57,170 --> 00:38:52,890 the life II that they have going on at 732 00:39:00,520 --> 00:38:57,180 NASA a couple days before this happened 733 00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:00,530 and the track that we managed to film 734 00:39:05,450 --> 00:39:03,570 actually looked like the craft that was 735 00:39:08,420 --> 00:39:05,460 filmed by the International Space 736 00:39:10,040 --> 00:39:08,430 Station about a few minutes or a few 737 00:39:14,250 --> 00:39:10,050 seconds before they actually cut the 738 00:39:17,319 --> 00:39:14,260 live feed how 739 00:39:19,900 --> 00:39:17,329 yeah you must obviously been interested 740 00:39:23,050 --> 00:39:19,910 in the subject and and and read up on it 741 00:39:27,069 --> 00:39:23,060 were there other incidents though in 742 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:27,079 let's say radius of 50 miles or so over 743 00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:29,450 a period of years I mean are there any 744 00:39:35,940 --> 00:39:32,930 major cases that took place near where 745 00:39:38,890 --> 00:39:35,950 you are you know surprisingly no 746 00:39:41,620 --> 00:39:38,900 although I'm pretty surprised that there 747 00:39:43,780 --> 00:39:41,630 aren't any especially in her town it's a 748 00:39:47,859 --> 00:39:43,790 smaller top town outside of Richmond 749 00:39:50,890 --> 00:39:47,869 Virginia but you know as far as I can 750 00:39:54,880 --> 00:39:50,900 tell it hasn't been very active area as 751 00:39:57,910 --> 00:39:54,890 far as UFO sightings in in that area in 752 00:40:02,079 --> 00:39:57,920 central Virginia well but you you seem 753 00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:02,089 to have uncovered that something now do 754 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:05,290 you think that they've made some sort of 755 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:08,450 contact with you maybe even if I'm just 756 00:40:14,530 --> 00:40:11,930 a super official level that they're 757 00:40:16,720 --> 00:40:14,540 saying they whoever they are if there is 758 00:40:18,370 --> 00:40:16,730 a they well what do you what do you 759 00:40:22,030 --> 00:40:18,380 think is behind the phenomenon I mean 760 00:40:26,290 --> 00:40:22,040 have you pondered that at all I pondered 761 00:40:27,819 --> 00:40:26,300 it and I can't tell you a definite 762 00:40:30,130 --> 00:40:27,829 conclusion that I have made 763 00:40:35,170 --> 00:40:30,140 I'm obviously interesting the 764 00:40:36,579 --> 00:40:35,180 extra-terrestrial aspect it seems that 765 00:40:39,819 --> 00:40:36,589 some at times they are pretty 766 00:40:44,290 --> 00:40:39,829 interactive because we have seen several 767 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:44,300 orb things happen or related type things 768 00:40:50,970 --> 00:40:46,130 which I never even entertained the 769 00:40:54,220 --> 00:40:50,980 possibility before this instance in 2006 770 00:40:58,290 --> 00:40:54,230 2016 even though I'd like to think that 771 00:41:01,059 --> 00:40:58,300 I was open-minded enough but you know 772 00:41:03,910 --> 00:41:01,069 I'm not really able to draw that 773 00:41:06,730 --> 00:41:03,920 conclusion altogether except for to say 774 00:41:10,329 --> 00:41:06,740 that they were I didn't but identified 775 00:41:13,960 --> 00:41:10,339 flying objects in the sky and you know 776 00:41:18,880 --> 00:41:13,970 they're pretty incredible what would you 777 00:41:21,400 --> 00:41:18,890 say of the things that you have seen you 778 00:41:25,720 --> 00:41:21,410 know since 2016 what would you say would 779 00:41:26,620 --> 00:41:25,730 be your like the closest you have been 780 00:41:28,029 --> 00:41:26,630 to any I'm have 781 00:41:29,950 --> 00:41:28,039 they all been you know like way up in 782 00:41:32,950 --> 00:41:29,960 the sky or I mean have you seen any 783 00:41:39,749 --> 00:41:32,960 that's you know with him say rock 784 00:41:42,670 --> 00:41:39,759 throwing distance well the three large 785 00:41:45,460 --> 00:41:42,680 horns balls of light and sky that we saw 786 00:41:47,559 --> 00:41:45,470 in early 2016 787 00:41:51,430 --> 00:41:47,569 they have gotten pretty close on one 788 00:41:54,039 --> 00:41:51,440 other instance that I can remember my 789 00:42:00,789 --> 00:41:54,049 son and I were outside it it was during 790 00:42:02,890 --> 00:42:00,799 the summer of 2016 and basically he came 791 00:42:06,069 --> 00:42:02,900 outside because something inside of my 792 00:42:09,130 --> 00:42:06,079 friend's house had startled him and we 793 00:42:12,130 --> 00:42:09,140 were chased by two balls of light it 794 00:42:14,529 --> 00:42:12,140 came out of the backyard woods and 795 00:42:19,509 --> 00:42:14,539 between my friend's backyard and her 796 00:42:22,509 --> 00:42:19,519 neighbor's yard adjacent and they pretty 797 00:42:23,710 --> 00:42:22,519 much chased us inside of her house and 798 00:42:27,150 --> 00:42:23,720 it scared us to death 799 00:42:30,279 --> 00:42:27,160 and so they have gotten pretty close so 800 00:42:33,999 --> 00:42:30,289 I I don't know if this was something 801 00:42:37,599 --> 00:42:34,009 devious you know trying to scare us or 802 00:42:40,410 --> 00:42:37,609 something but you know it's it 803 00:42:42,789 --> 00:42:40,420 definitely scared the bejesus out of me 804 00:42:45,220 --> 00:42:42,799 okay what now can I you said that your 805 00:42:47,470 --> 00:42:45,230 your son went outside because of 806 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:47,480 something that happened in the house um 807 00:42:52,630 --> 00:42:50,930 yes all my friends in my son's house 808 00:42:55,630 --> 00:42:52,640 this is the same best friend where I had 809 00:43:01,299 --> 00:42:55,640 the first initial UFO encounter in early 810 00:43:04,420 --> 00:43:01,309 2016 in her house there's always a lot 811 00:43:06,579 --> 00:43:04,430 of strange activity going on so when he 812 00:43:10,150 --> 00:43:06,589 my son came outside because he was 813 00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:10,160 scared a DVD had flowed off the 814 00:43:16,509 --> 00:43:13,130 bookshelf basically hurling towards him 815 00:43:18,249 --> 00:43:16,519 and I had tried to reassure him that you 816 00:43:20,920 --> 00:43:18,259 know things like this happened at my 817 00:43:24,700 --> 00:43:20,930 friend's house it just kind of happened 818 00:43:26,710 --> 00:43:24,710 a lot there and you know food came 819 00:43:28,809 --> 00:43:26,720 outside for some comfort and then when 820 00:43:30,809 --> 00:43:28,819 these two balls of light come flying at 821 00:43:35,190 --> 00:43:30,819 us from the woods 822 00:43:37,660 --> 00:43:35,200 basically it kind of scared us to death 823 00:43:39,880 --> 00:43:37,670 yeah I bet he probably doesn't want to 824 00:43:45,249 --> 00:43:39,890 go back to your friend's house 825 00:43:48,279 --> 00:43:45,259 yeah it's kind of a thing all right well 826 00:43:54,279 --> 00:43:48,289 we've got a question from Troy from 827 00:43:57,749 --> 00:43:54,289 Texas and Troy wants to know has as you 828 00:44:01,180 --> 00:43:57,759 your friend ever attempted any kind of 829 00:44:04,329 --> 00:44:01,190 regression to see if you could recall 830 00:44:07,870 --> 00:44:04,339 you know more details of I suppose your 831 00:44:09,249 --> 00:44:07,880 initial UFO sighting had regression for 832 00:44:12,249 --> 00:44:09,259 those out there don't know he liked me 833 00:44:14,950 --> 00:44:12,259 you know I got a hypnosis or hypnotic 834 00:44:20,349 --> 00:44:14,960 regression I can't speak for my friend 835 00:44:21,009 --> 00:44:20,359 but me yes definitely I have two shared 836 00:44:23,229 --> 00:44:21,019 memories 837 00:44:26,049 --> 00:44:23,239 one with my brother and one with my 838 00:44:30,029 --> 00:44:26,059 brother and my mother from childhood and 839 00:44:32,470 --> 00:44:30,039 we don't really remember much but 840 00:44:34,809 --> 00:44:32,480 suffice it to say that we were both we 841 00:44:38,259 --> 00:44:34,819 were all three of us scared at one point 842 00:44:40,749 --> 00:44:38,269 and in another memory it was just my 843 00:44:43,410 --> 00:44:40,759 brother and I and we were terrified and 844 00:44:46,479 --> 00:44:43,420 we were inside of a vehicles both times 845 00:44:49,779 --> 00:44:46,489 and we don't really remember much since 846 00:44:53,289 --> 00:44:49,789 or you know during the occasion so I 847 00:44:57,400 --> 00:44:53,299 have gone a hypnotic progression to try 848 00:44:59,229 --> 00:44:57,410 to uncover a little bit at what's that 849 00:45:03,039 --> 00:44:59,239 what's happened in the past but I 850 00:45:07,589 --> 00:45:03,049 haven't really been able to remember or 851 00:45:10,420 --> 00:45:07,599 uncover anything of substance so this 852 00:45:13,960 --> 00:45:10,430 this kind of unusual activity has 853 00:45:19,299 --> 00:45:13,970 happened to you and your family for 854 00:45:21,880 --> 00:45:19,309 quite a ways back how do you remember 855 00:45:23,920 --> 00:45:21,890 how old you were when the whatever 856 00:45:27,220 --> 00:45:23,930 happened to you in the car with you with 857 00:45:33,940 --> 00:45:27,230 your mom and brother I was about eight 858 00:45:36,150 --> 00:45:33,950 or nine I would say like I said none of 859 00:45:40,269 --> 00:45:36,160 us can really exactly remember what 860 00:45:43,059 --> 00:45:40,279 terrified us so much that night and you 861 00:45:45,309 --> 00:45:43,069 know hypnotic regression I mean I've 862 00:45:49,660 --> 00:45:45,319 tried it and I haven't really been able 863 00:45:53,009 --> 00:45:49,670 to uncover too much of it yet yeah yeah 864 00:45:57,329 --> 00:45:53,019 you have to have a very good and very 865 00:45:59,219 --> 00:45:57,339 professional hypnosis in order to do 866 00:46:02,339 --> 00:45:59,229 something like that correctly and 867 00:46:09,959 --> 00:46:02,349 without you know accidentally feeding 868 00:46:12,299 --> 00:46:09,969 you information that maybe see yeah but 869 00:46:13,919 --> 00:46:12,309 but you're saying that you know all's 870 00:46:17,219 --> 00:46:13,929 all of you remember is that there 871 00:46:19,679 --> 00:46:17,229 something something scared you but you 872 00:46:21,839 --> 00:46:19,689 don't know what well and we're gonna 873 00:46:25,889 --> 00:46:21,849 have to hold it at that for now because 874 00:46:29,549 --> 00:46:25,899 has the typist has really flown we're 875 00:46:31,049 --> 00:46:29,559 coming up to our break Tim so we're 876 00:46:33,269 --> 00:46:31,059 gonna have to take it it's our top of 877 00:46:36,389 --> 00:46:33,279 the hour break and we'll continue our 878 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:36,399 conversation with Russ and Lori when we 879 00:46:45,890 --> 00:46:50,630 [Music] 880 00:46:57,589 --> 00:46:54,930 explode the bazaars are your e-ticket 881 00:47:00,870 --> 00:46:57,599 ride into the world of the paranormal 882 00:47:05,180 --> 00:47:00,880 strap yourself in as we traverse the 883 00:47:08,299 --> 00:47:05,190 universe exploring the unexplained UFO s 884 00:47:10,680 --> 00:47:08,309 ghosts lost world 885 00:47:14,549 --> 00:47:10,690 cryptozoology as well as other 886 00:47:19,559 --> 00:47:14,559 dimensions it's time to take back the 887 00:47:22,620 --> 00:47:19,569 night night now your electrifying hosts 888 00:47:29,190 --> 00:47:22,630 of exploring the bizarre Timothy Begley 889 00:47:31,589 --> 00:47:29,200 and team sports all right welcome back 890 00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:31,599 to the second hour of exploring the 891 00:47:36,569 --> 00:47:33,729 bizarre and tim has a fascinating 892 00:47:39,680 --> 00:47:36,579 program tonight yet some great guests 893 00:47:43,859 --> 00:47:39,690 and well you know I like a first person 894 00:47:46,529 --> 00:47:43,869 ID 92 experiencers you know people would 895 00:47:50,309 --> 00:47:46,539 have actually gotten down in the mud as 896 00:47:52,769 --> 00:47:50,319 they say - or maybe float it or maybe 897 00:47:55,049 --> 00:47:52,779 floated in the in the air 898 00:47:56,789 --> 00:47:55,059 you know that's that's where it's at 899 00:47:59,670 --> 00:47:56,799 though because I mean you know you don't 900 00:48:01,049 --> 00:47:59,680 you just have these personal experiences 901 00:48:03,630 --> 00:48:01,059 you know we don't actually have you know 902 00:48:05,549 --> 00:48:03,640 physical UFOs to study you know we've 903 00:48:09,839 --> 00:48:05,559 got these personal experiences that's 904 00:48:12,950 --> 00:48:09,849 all we have well you know even it's kind 905 00:48:16,979 --> 00:48:12,960 of interesting here the last week or so 906 00:48:20,130 --> 00:48:16,989 UFOs have come to the top of the news we 907 00:48:22,890 --> 00:48:20,140 haven't seen much activity UFO eyes in 908 00:48:24,749 --> 00:48:22,900 the media for quite a number of years I 909 00:48:29,549 --> 00:48:24,759 think the last that I can think of would 910 00:48:32,579 --> 00:48:29,559 be the O'Hara Chicago Airport sightings 911 00:48:36,690 --> 00:48:32,589 that's that got a little bit of a rise 912 00:48:38,279 --> 00:48:36,700 out of the media and was on the news for 913 00:48:40,440 --> 00:48:38,289 a couple of days they're running and 914 00:48:42,599 --> 00:48:40,450 then it's been pretty a pretty you know 915 00:48:45,440 --> 00:48:42,609 the silent and occasional sighting 916 00:48:48,660 --> 00:48:45,450 perhaps but nothing have any great 917 00:48:51,269 --> 00:48:48,670 importance and and this activity of 918 00:48:53,359 --> 00:48:51,279 course involving the government spending 919 00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:53,369 twenty two million dollars which is a 920 00:49:00,569 --> 00:48:56,650 like not real honest no like my roll of 921 00:49:02,969 --> 00:49:00,579 nickels over here to the to the 922 00:49:04,450 --> 00:49:02,979 government I mean it shows that they 923 00:49:07,420 --> 00:49:04,460 still maintain an interest 924 00:49:10,089 --> 00:49:07,430 in it but as they know we are according 925 00:49:13,630 --> 00:49:10,099 to them and those that worked on the 926 00:49:16,930 --> 00:49:13,640 project they know as little about UFOs 927 00:49:18,670 --> 00:49:16,940 as as we do in fact I'm sure they're 928 00:49:21,089 --> 00:49:18,680 probably more confused than anything 929 00:49:26,829 --> 00:49:21,099 else you know do you talk about 930 00:49:28,150 --> 00:49:26,839 disclosure if I were the president I and 931 00:49:30,820 --> 00:49:28,160 people ask me well what are you know 932 00:49:32,500 --> 00:49:30,830 what are UFOs I would say well go out 933 00:49:34,300 --> 00:49:32,510 and buy a you know a couple of books by 934 00:49:36,310 --> 00:49:34,310 Tim Buckley or some other authors and 935 00:49:38,079 --> 00:49:36,320 decide for yourself because that's what 936 00:49:41,079 --> 00:49:38,089 we're trying to do you know I mean like 937 00:49:44,440 --> 00:49:41,089 everybody's got a personal opinion on it 938 00:49:47,920 --> 00:49:44,450 either based on their own experiences or 939 00:49:50,260 --> 00:49:47,930 based upon whatever that they've been 940 00:49:54,849 --> 00:49:50,270 able to accumulate information or 941 00:49:56,950 --> 00:49:54,859 evidence wise but there has been you 942 00:49:58,930 --> 00:49:56,960 know this is nothing you knew about the 943 00:50:01,060 --> 00:49:58,940 the the concept that there are some 944 00:50:02,950 --> 00:50:01,070 people in the government that are trying 945 00:50:04,690 --> 00:50:02,960 to get this information out because they 946 00:50:07,270 --> 00:50:04,700 think the public has a right to know and 947 00:50:10,950 --> 00:50:07,280 others that would try to keep it as a 948 00:50:14,589 --> 00:50:10,960 silence you know the silence Grouper 949 00:50:17,040 --> 00:50:14,599 secrecy in involving all of this if you 950 00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:17,050 read the some of the early books by 951 00:50:23,890 --> 00:50:20,330 major Donald Lee Kehoe and Edward 952 00:50:28,349 --> 00:50:23,900 rappelled this conflict has been going 953 00:50:32,589 --> 00:50:28,359 on within the walls of the Pentagon for 954 00:50:35,320 --> 00:50:32,599 50 years more than right from the very 955 00:50:37,120 --> 00:50:35,330 beginning there are some that thought 956 00:50:38,849 --> 00:50:37,130 that these were extraterrestrial and 957 00:50:42,250 --> 00:50:38,859 that the public had a right to know and 958 00:50:45,640 --> 00:50:42,260 some that the thought that you know 959 00:50:48,099 --> 00:50:45,650 they're the truth whatever the truth is 960 00:50:51,430 --> 00:50:48,109 should be hidden because of a mass panic 961 00:50:53,109 --> 00:50:51,440 or the stock market would crash well we 962 00:50:58,870 --> 00:50:53,119 proved this week that the stock market 963 00:51:00,310 --> 00:50:58,880 isn't gonna crash it's it certainly it 964 00:51:04,570 --> 00:51:00,320 certainly didn't because of the 965 00:51:06,849 --> 00:51:04,580 revelations of UFOs being seen and and 966 00:51:09,940 --> 00:51:06,859 you know even even though the the idea 967 00:51:12,220 --> 00:51:09,950 that here we have this video or a gun 968 00:51:14,530 --> 00:51:12,230 camera footage of this thing that they 969 00:51:16,839 --> 00:51:14,540 said look like a tic-tac that was flying 970 00:51:18,210 --> 00:51:16,849 at enormous speed and making all kinds 971 00:51:20,810 --> 00:51:18,220 of maneuvers this is 972 00:51:24,180 --> 00:51:20,820 neither if you remember the movie in 973 00:51:27,480 --> 00:51:24,190 1956 that was called simply UFOs what 974 00:51:34,830 --> 00:51:27,490 was the main thrust of the other film 975 00:51:37,730 --> 00:51:34,840 were two different 16 millimeter reels 976 00:51:41,870 --> 00:51:37,740 that had been taken I think one was by a 977 00:51:44,580 --> 00:51:41,880 wasn't it a baseball a coach or manager 978 00:51:47,670 --> 00:51:44,590 in Montana 979 00:51:49,830 --> 00:51:47,680 all right your honor another one was I 980 00:51:51,839 --> 00:51:49,840 can't remember maybe Utah or somewhere 981 00:51:54,089 --> 00:51:51,849 and they some people said well look at 982 00:51:56,130 --> 00:51:54,099 the these objects are flying it you know 983 00:51:57,690 --> 00:51:56,140 a great speed and doing all kinds of 984 00:52:00,800 --> 00:51:57,700 maneuvers and other people said they're 985 00:52:03,450 --> 00:52:00,810 just a flock of birds 986 00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:03,460 well I'm plus I mean we don't know well 987 00:52:12,140 --> 00:52:07,450 you know if that imagery that you know 988 00:52:16,230 --> 00:52:12,150 supposes was was taken from you know the 989 00:52:19,020 --> 00:52:16,240 from the from the jet I don't know what 990 00:52:20,370 --> 00:52:19,030 you got state's radar imagery or I don't 991 00:52:23,270 --> 00:52:20,380 know we don't know whether or not that's 992 00:52:27,810 --> 00:52:23,280 actually real or not yeah you're able to 993 00:52:30,240 --> 00:52:27,820 do so much anymore you know just I mean 994 00:52:31,680 --> 00:52:30,250 no anybody can get a hold of software 995 00:52:33,780 --> 00:52:31,690 and mimic something like that very 996 00:52:35,720 --> 00:52:33,790 easily so you know it's it's it's hard 997 00:52:38,040 --> 00:52:35,730 to tell anymore 998 00:52:41,099 --> 00:52:38,050 well with it with the government didn't 999 00:52:44,490 --> 00:52:41,109 be making this up well I mean that that 1000 00:52:47,310 --> 00:52:44,500 footage that footage was released 1001 00:52:48,960 --> 00:52:47,320 separately from the news reports that 1002 00:52:51,990 --> 00:52:48,970 have been coming out about you know this 1003 00:52:57,359 --> 00:52:52,000 this you know so-called secret 1004 00:53:00,329 --> 00:52:57,369 government study that that footage came 1005 00:53:04,320 --> 00:53:00,339 out I think people will put it out to 1006 00:53:08,430 --> 00:53:04,330 try to support this this this 1007 00:53:10,970 --> 00:53:08,440 information so well I know I think what 1008 00:53:13,770 --> 00:53:10,980 was not the the footage of official 1009 00:53:15,900 --> 00:53:13,780 military of footage released by the 1010 00:53:19,020 --> 00:53:15,910 Pentagon I don't think so I don't think 1011 00:53:20,940 --> 00:53:19,030 I think it was okay I will have to go 1012 00:53:24,329 --> 00:53:20,950 back integral double check because I had 1013 00:53:27,930 --> 00:53:24,339 you know I had seen that footage a 1014 00:53:31,079 --> 00:53:27,940 couple of weeks before before this story 1015 00:53:34,890 --> 00:53:31,089 actually yes indeed it 1016 00:53:37,769 --> 00:53:34,900 it had been released previously with it 1017 00:53:40,440 --> 00:53:37,779 without that without the audio part yes 1018 00:53:43,259 --> 00:53:40,450 but right but they have they interviewed 1019 00:53:45,329 --> 00:53:43,269 the the Navy pilot on the on the you 1020 00:53:47,759 --> 00:53:45,339 know on the on the air I don't think 1021 00:53:50,069 --> 00:53:47,769 he's sitting there and met you know I'm 1022 00:53:52,249 --> 00:53:50,079 making and making it up he saw what he 1023 00:53:56,249 --> 00:53:52,259 saw and the equipment photograph for the 1024 00:53:57,719 --> 00:53:56,259 photographs right well we'll just have 1025 00:54:05,130 --> 00:53:57,729 to we'll just have to wait and see if 1026 00:54:07,529 --> 00:54:05,140 any guy is away few days and I know to 1027 00:54:12,660 --> 00:54:07,539 notice that there seemed to be a little 1028 00:54:15,569 --> 00:54:12,670 less of the chuckle factor involved a 1029 00:54:19,890 --> 00:54:15,579 little bit of sneering perhaps now I 1030 00:54:23,579 --> 00:54:19,900 noticed it's kind of like a good cop bad 1031 00:54:26,309 --> 00:54:23,589 cop or a good newsman bad news man where 1032 00:54:28,019 --> 00:54:26,319 they one of the you know the people 1033 00:54:30,989 --> 00:54:28,029 sitting around the desk we're discussing 1034 00:54:33,059 --> 00:54:30,999 this well take it more seriously than 1035 00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:33,069 the other I I wonder if this is taught 1036 00:54:37,979 --> 00:54:35,410 to them in like a media or journalism 1037 00:54:41,729 --> 00:54:37,989 school some of the you know the subjects 1038 00:54:43,589 --> 00:54:41,739 that you can ridicule or or or make fun 1039 00:54:45,630 --> 00:54:43,599 of on the air UFOs must be like a 1040 00:54:47,940 --> 00:54:45,640 separate little packet that they're 1041 00:54:51,719 --> 00:54:47,950 given you know all right well Tim's you 1042 00:54:55,259 --> 00:54:51,729 know I I have been in the you know on 1043 00:54:57,690 --> 00:54:55,269 that side of the camera for a number of 1044 00:55:00,630 --> 00:54:57,700 years and I can tell you I can tell you 1045 00:55:02,789 --> 00:55:00,640 that it's not taught in journalism 1046 00:55:05,249 --> 00:55:02,799 school and one of the reasons that you 1047 00:55:08,729 --> 00:55:05,259 get the giggle factor as they call it is 1048 00:55:11,549 --> 00:55:08,739 because is because of that you know 1049 00:55:13,349 --> 00:55:11,559 these reporters the you know editors I 1050 00:55:18,059 --> 00:55:13,359 mean they have no experience or 1051 00:55:21,509 --> 00:55:18,069 knowledge of UFOs or UFO reports so they 1052 00:55:23,969 --> 00:55:21,519 go for the easiest way out you know the 1053 00:55:26,999 --> 00:55:23,979 lowest common denominator I can't 1054 00:55:28,739 --> 00:55:27,009 believe that you know some of these 1055 00:55:32,009 --> 00:55:28,749 people that are doing the news 1056 00:55:34,229 --> 00:55:32,019 commentary at noon or 6 or 11 p.m. 1057 00:55:37,079 --> 00:55:34,239 haven't read a book on UFOs that can't 1058 00:55:39,749 --> 00:55:37,089 be that they're in most and most of them 1059 00:55:42,599 --> 00:55:39,759 have not most of them are completely 1060 00:55:45,000 --> 00:55:42,609 ignorant of the subject the most the 1061 00:55:47,930 --> 00:55:45,010 posted the most they know 1062 00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:47,940 it is from maybe watching the x-files or 1063 00:55:55,020 --> 00:55:51,010 something along those lines that's why 1064 00:55:57,740 --> 00:55:55,030 you get these really inane stories you 1065 00:56:00,750 --> 00:55:57,750 know put out well I won that one now 1066 00:56:03,420 --> 00:56:00,760 okay at the at the end of the segment 1067 00:56:05,700 --> 00:56:03,430 after they've given the hard facts about 1068 00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:05,710 the particular incident then they make 1069 00:56:12,110 --> 00:56:09,090 their there their joke is that joke 1070 00:56:16,110 --> 00:56:12,120 pre-written by some editor or is that 1071 00:56:18,900 --> 00:56:16,120 improvised yeah a lot of times right at 1072 00:56:20,820 --> 00:56:18,910 the very end it's improvised okay but I 1073 00:56:23,010 --> 00:56:20,830 mean the actual production of the story 1074 00:56:25,980 --> 00:56:23,020 that's why everybody's rights to using 1075 00:56:29,610 --> 00:56:25,990 you know like x-files music you know 1076 00:56:31,740 --> 00:56:29,620 that that tired old trope and you know 1077 00:56:34,560 --> 00:56:31,750 and it's just so yeah it's because they 1078 00:56:38,250 --> 00:56:34,570 have no previous knowledge and so you 1079 00:56:40,680 --> 00:56:38,260 know they react with with comedy they 1080 00:56:43,560 --> 00:56:40,690 they make a joke about it well you know 1081 00:56:45,450 --> 00:56:43,570 I I was kind of surprised that in the 1082 00:56:47,310 --> 00:56:45,460 old days I had my own publicist that 1083 00:56:51,150 --> 00:56:47,320 gentleman by the name of Harold sulk and 1084 00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:51,160 we worked together for many years and he 1085 00:56:55,280 --> 00:56:53,770 would have gotten to me on every TV talk 1086 00:56:58,710 --> 00:56:55,290 show going 1087 00:57:01,980 --> 00:56:58,720 there was a seems to be a lack of a 1088 00:57:05,130 --> 00:57:01,990 connection between the media and and the 1089 00:57:06,720 --> 00:57:05,140 UFO experts if there is such a thing 1090 00:57:09,630 --> 00:57:06,730 yeah you would think that they would 1091 00:57:12,450 --> 00:57:09,640 have been on the news even if only for a 1092 00:57:15,240 --> 00:57:12,460 10 second a clip it doesn't even seem 1093 00:57:17,310 --> 00:57:15,250 like it well it seems like for three or 1094 00:57:18,960 --> 00:57:17,320 four days that the media was using the 1095 00:57:20,700 --> 00:57:18,970 same story over and over and over again 1096 00:57:23,130 --> 00:57:20,710 they didn't even bother to go out and 1097 00:57:29,460 --> 00:57:23,140 get a little bit more of the so-called 1098 00:57:30,990 --> 00:57:29,470 facts enough of our theorizing here let 1099 00:57:34,410 --> 00:57:31,000 us get back to the guests of the evening 1100 00:57:37,290 --> 00:57:34,420 Tim yeah Russ has been patiently waiting 1101 00:57:40,230 --> 00:57:37,300 I know for us to finish a jabbering back 1102 00:57:44,240 --> 00:57:40,240 and forth there but Russ you know you 1103 00:57:48,300 --> 00:57:44,250 had alluded earlier to your own personal 1104 00:57:50,940 --> 00:57:48,310 abduction experiences I mean are are you 1105 00:57:53,970 --> 00:57:50,950 willing to tell us a little bit about 1106 00:57:56,060 --> 00:57:53,980 those yeah if you like you know yeah 1107 00:57:58,590 --> 00:57:56,070 yeah definitely definitely yeah tell us 1108 00:58:01,920 --> 00:57:58,600 willing started then 1109 00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:01,930 things happen when I was a child but you 1110 00:58:06,630 --> 00:58:03,690 know if you if you want to talk about 1111 00:58:09,770 --> 00:58:06,640 remembering things let's talk about the 1112 00:58:14,820 --> 00:58:09,780 things I remember are on a bike I was 1113 00:58:18,660 --> 00:58:14,830 riding after work usually going to see 1114 00:58:21,680 --> 00:58:18,670 somebody and I went down the tunnel 1115 00:58:24,360 --> 00:58:21,690 right yeah and I'm thinking myself 1116 00:58:28,200 --> 00:58:24,370 where's this tunnel come from her you 1117 00:58:30,360 --> 00:58:28,210 know there's no tunnel on this road then 1118 00:58:35,850 --> 00:58:30,370 the next thing I remember I was in a 1119 00:58:40,890 --> 00:58:35,860 circular room and was like people around 1120 00:58:44,790 --> 00:58:40,900 me and I was taught into this okay 1121 00:58:47,640 --> 00:58:44,800 explain it like a chair but like then it 1122 00:58:49,230 --> 00:58:47,650 was suspended but it wasn't like a 1123 00:58:51,840 --> 00:58:49,240 proper chair if you're not I mean I 1124 00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:51,850 can't explain it just felt like I was 1125 00:58:59,010 --> 00:58:55,570 sat in something and I was hanging and 1126 00:59:01,980 --> 00:58:59,020 then be like adopt his chair in a way 1127 00:59:05,760 --> 00:59:01,990 and I had my head put back and had this 1128 00:59:08,820 --> 00:59:05,770 tube put down my throat and I'm trying 1129 00:59:12,630 --> 00:59:08,830 to fight this and I felt something and I 1130 00:59:15,510 --> 00:59:12,640 saw white went numb and then had this L 1131 00:59:21,870 --> 00:59:15,520 me that was part of this tube put on my 1132 00:59:23,940 --> 00:59:21,880 over my head then I was raised and there 1133 00:59:27,750 --> 00:59:23,950 was hundreds of people in the same 1134 00:59:30,180 --> 00:59:27,760 situation suspended in like this chair 1135 00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:30,190 type thing and there's this like I could 1136 00:59:39,510 --> 00:59:34,890 only correct term as likened to a screen 1137 00:59:41,670 --> 00:59:39,520 like a hologram and there was all sorts 1138 00:59:45,180 --> 00:59:41,680 of things being flashed in front of us 1139 00:59:49,470 --> 00:59:45,190 right yeah and there were weaponry and 1140 00:59:55,230 --> 00:59:49,480 how to use weaponry etc and there was 1141 00:59:59,390 --> 00:59:55,240 then different images of races came up 1142 01:00:02,250 --> 00:59:59,400 like alien races and you know and and 1143 01:00:06,060 --> 01:00:02,260 then the next thing I know right yeah 1144 01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:06,070 I'm back coming out of this tunnel right 1145 01:00:11,970 --> 01:00:08,290 yeah but in the opposite direction 1146 01:00:14,370 --> 01:00:11,980 hmm and yet to where well I was 1147 01:00:17,099 --> 01:00:14,380 driving riding in the first place right 1148 01:00:21,210 --> 01:00:17,109 and sort of like him I'm really I'm 1149 01:00:23,010 --> 01:00:21,220 almost falling off my motorbike and sort 1150 01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:23,020 of like having to bring it back up and 1151 01:00:27,270 --> 01:00:26,170 looking around me and thinking you know 1152 01:00:30,569 --> 01:00:27,280 what was that 1153 01:00:32,130 --> 01:00:30,579 so that was one time how old were you 1154 01:00:36,180 --> 01:00:32,140 how old are you when that happened I 1155 01:00:41,819 --> 01:00:36,190 would have been about 20 26 or so 1156 01:00:43,500 --> 01:00:41,829 27 okay then I was a level crossing more 1157 01:00:46,740 --> 01:00:43,510 or less around the same area a place 1158 01:00:48,930 --> 01:00:46,750 called Staton which is over side of 1159 01:00:51,060 --> 01:00:48,940 North Yorkshire and that I came to this 1160 01:00:53,339 --> 01:00:51,070 level crossing these red lights were 1161 01:00:57,540 --> 01:00:53,349 coming down and I stopped 1162 01:01:00,599 --> 01:00:57,550 I was illuminated by the light I looked 1163 01:01:02,849 --> 01:01:00,609 around because I could feel like hate on 1164 01:01:05,010 --> 01:01:02,859 me back a little turn on the phone this 1165 01:01:06,510 --> 01:01:05,020 is a wagon driver there scared a bit too 1166 01:01:07,589 --> 01:01:06,520 close for comfort so I'm looking that 1167 01:01:09,839 --> 01:01:07,599 there's nobody there 1168 01:01:14,520 --> 01:01:09,849 there's nobody at the side of me and 1169 01:01:19,140 --> 01:01:14,530 then I felt like I was floating and then 1170 01:01:22,710 --> 01:01:19,150 the next thing I walk back down on my 1171 01:01:25,050 --> 01:01:22,720 motorbike and the light had gone and 1172 01:01:27,390 --> 01:01:25,060 then the little red lights had sort of 1173 01:01:30,470 --> 01:01:27,400 like gone in front of me and I thought 1174 01:01:34,920 --> 01:01:30,480 ask bizarre I never saw a thing go past 1175 01:01:36,809 --> 01:01:34,930 Canada me journey on this light was 1176 01:01:40,589 --> 01:01:36,819 travelling and I could see it in the 1177 01:01:43,620 --> 01:01:40,599 left hand side in this this valley and 1178 01:01:45,930 --> 01:01:43,630 then sort of like over trees and it was 1179 01:01:48,599 --> 01:01:45,940 silver in color at first and then it 1180 01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:48,609 changed to like just a ball light and 1181 01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:50,890 then it started getting closer towards 1182 01:01:56,010 --> 01:01:53,770 men coming over big trees and what have 1183 01:01:59,400 --> 01:01:56,020 you and then it's shot in front of me 1184 01:02:01,859 --> 01:01:59,410 right in front of the road and saw life 1185 01:02:03,720 --> 01:02:01,869 got to slow down our Tracey from what if 1186 01:02:06,780 --> 01:02:03,730 I'm honest because it was outside of me 1187 01:02:08,970 --> 01:02:06,790 at one point sure and it's like straight 1188 01:02:12,510 --> 01:02:08,980 across the road and up over to a place 1189 01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:12,520 called Halifax so I pulled over where we 1190 01:02:17,520 --> 01:02:14,650 used to do trail bike riding and I 1191 01:02:19,410 --> 01:02:17,530 pulled over and I watched it I even let 1192 01:02:22,079 --> 01:02:19,420 a single penny you know what's this in 1193 01:02:23,819 --> 01:02:22,089 the amazement and I thought right I 1194 01:02:24,220 --> 01:02:23,829 better move myself because I've got work 1195 01:02:28,270 --> 01:02:24,230 then 1196 01:02:31,150 --> 01:02:28,280 today so I get some and phonics a bit 1197 01:02:33,370 --> 01:02:31,160 strange the lights are all off my mum my 1198 01:02:36,460 --> 01:02:33,380 sister and me daddy usually sort of 1199 01:02:39,040 --> 01:02:36,470 light up when I get in causing me doc 1200 01:02:41,230 --> 01:02:39,050 Cain let her out with my beer and I 1201 01:02:42,580 --> 01:02:41,240 thought a better glow a bed now I made a 1202 01:02:44,470 --> 01:02:42,590 coffee I thought I better go up there 1203 01:02:46,690 --> 01:02:44,480 because it's a bit late I'm gonna wake 1204 01:02:49,330 --> 01:02:46,700 everybody up in the house you know so 1205 01:02:52,330 --> 01:02:49,340 the way and walk up by me mum shouting 1206 01:02:54,250 --> 01:02:52,340 rust get up you know you think you're 1207 01:02:57,099 --> 01:02:54,260 getting early when you're working the 1208 01:03:00,160 --> 01:02:57,109 next day what's up you so four all right 1209 01:03:02,290 --> 01:03:00,170 that's a bit old anyway so just to work 1210 01:03:05,530 --> 01:03:02,300 on me more bike walk through the door 1211 01:03:07,000 --> 01:03:05,540 I'm taking me on off and one of the Isis 1212 01:03:09,250 --> 01:03:07,010 came up and she said yeah have you seen 1213 01:03:11,800 --> 01:03:09,260 the off-days roses have you seen yours 1214 01:03:14,430 --> 01:03:11,810 she said no she says seriously she says 1215 01:03:17,320 --> 01:03:14,440 have you ever done it on the Sun bed 1216 01:03:19,540 --> 01:03:17,330 talking about she said look at your face 1217 01:03:21,760 --> 01:03:19,550 in the mirror you know so I went in my 1218 01:03:25,150 --> 01:03:21,770 office had a little mirror soughing and 1219 01:03:29,500 --> 01:03:25,160 I looked and where me after sell me had 1220 01:03:32,710 --> 01:03:29,510 been my face was red raw back in me 1221 01:03:36,330 --> 01:03:32,720 ounce of me neck there for us bliss aha 1222 01:03:38,620 --> 01:03:36,340 anyway you know like you did sunburned 1223 01:03:42,640 --> 01:03:38,630 it looked like so yeah but remember this 1224 01:03:44,230 --> 01:03:42,650 was you know like lire night right you 1225 01:03:46,120 --> 01:03:44,240 know I mean someone could come on from 1226 01:03:49,090 --> 01:03:46,130 I've been to see somebody about doing a 1227 01:03:52,270 --> 01:03:49,100 job on me chopper you see and my 1228 01:03:54,400 --> 01:03:52,280 motorbike nice and he wasn't he wasn't 1229 01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:54,410 there so I came home we were about half 1230 01:03:59,890 --> 01:03:57,170 past 10:00 at night it wasn't in the 1231 01:04:02,380 --> 01:03:59,900 summer it was the back end so I mean it 1232 01:04:05,020 --> 01:04:02,390 wasn't sunburn although I was on a radio 1233 01:04:08,140 --> 01:04:05,030 show and I was assured it was Imus it 1234 01:04:10,930 --> 01:04:08,150 was wind burn sorry Nina he was wind 1235 01:04:15,310 --> 01:04:10,940 burn no it won't we burn so that's 1236 01:04:18,250 --> 01:04:15,320 something else in I was with a friend or 1237 01:04:21,730 --> 01:04:18,260 he was with me on back of my knee more 1238 01:04:26,349 --> 01:04:21,740 bike we'd gone out after work after tea 1239 01:04:28,510 --> 01:04:26,359 and just having a ride around and it was 1240 01:04:30,250 --> 01:04:28,520 telling us the next day about where 1241 01:04:32,380 --> 01:04:30,260 we've been at night and I said well I 1242 01:04:34,840 --> 01:04:32,390 haven't been that way they said how do 1243 01:04:37,150 --> 01:04:34,850 you mean I said to nurses and it's funny 1244 01:04:38,020 --> 01:04:37,160 I said I went down this tunnel and what 1245 01:04:40,060 --> 01:04:38,030 are you talking about 1246 01:04:43,570 --> 01:04:40,070 you fall I said how do you mean I said 1247 01:04:45,370 --> 01:04:43,580 this has not been that way I said no I 1248 01:04:46,960 --> 01:04:45,380 said we didn't go past the Three Nuns I 1249 01:04:50,500 --> 01:04:46,970 said that's miles in the opposite 1250 01:04:53,080 --> 01:04:50,510 direction so a bit of an argument about 1251 01:04:55,060 --> 01:04:53,090 this and he won't speak to us in fact it 1252 01:04:57,460 --> 01:04:55,070 was so bad the next day we'll sort of 1253 01:04:59,500 --> 01:04:57,470 like you're going to earn a meeting it 1254 01:05:02,620 --> 01:04:59,510 won't have a lift on the back of my bag 1255 01:05:05,890 --> 01:05:02,630 because these were off-road right and he 1256 01:05:08,920 --> 01:05:05,900 went on the bus because he said you know 1257 01:05:10,660 --> 01:05:08,930 you're talking stupid now Panda so I 1258 01:05:15,730 --> 01:05:10,670 went past the bus keeping the fingers 1259 01:05:17,230 --> 01:05:15,740 and Wow like everybody's amusement so I 1260 01:05:20,380 --> 01:05:17,240 like keeping me on and give me things 1261 01:05:22,870 --> 01:05:20,390 about of you then we got off the bus and 1262 01:05:25,030 --> 01:05:22,880 so I'm crossing over to this pub and so 1263 01:05:28,870 --> 01:05:25,040 I'm like so took me for a piece back 1264 01:05:30,790 --> 01:05:28,880 side you know sort of like almost and he 1265 01:05:33,010 --> 01:05:30,800 saw like giving me the Lord of abuse 1266 01:05:35,650 --> 01:05:33,020 back in marvya and then they were saying 1267 01:05:39,460 --> 01:05:35,660 oh so beaut oh yeah I know he's talking 1268 01:05:42,100 --> 01:05:39,470 about evil on bike and we went somewhere 1269 01:05:44,260 --> 01:05:42,110 last night and sort of like he said we 1270 01:05:45,460 --> 01:05:44,270 went to where I went another way you 1271 01:05:47,470 --> 01:05:45,470 know and he's talking about going down 1272 01:05:50,140 --> 01:05:47,480 the bloody tunnel whoops going down the 1273 01:05:55,600 --> 01:05:50,150 tunnel so you know so I'm like it was a 1274 01:05:56,980 --> 01:05:55,610 I should know where I rode my bike and 1275 01:06:00,160 --> 01:05:56,990 he said well I was on the back I said 1276 01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:00,170 nowhere so this was going on you know 1277 01:06:07,060 --> 01:06:04,610 then I was coming back we've been out 1278 01:06:10,570 --> 01:06:07,070 we've been out to a big meet you know 1279 01:06:13,090 --> 01:06:10,580 and what have you and the party sort of 1280 01:06:14,430 --> 01:06:13,100 thing and I had to pull over because I 1281 01:06:17,520 --> 01:06:14,440 didn't know where to walk 1282 01:06:21,340 --> 01:06:17,530 Brian yeah the next thing I remember and 1283 01:06:25,680 --> 01:06:21,350 with this military unit of aliens right 1284 01:06:32,410 --> 01:06:25,690 yeah and we're attacking this facility 1285 01:06:36,310 --> 01:06:32,420 right yeah no yeah and so I can you know 1286 01:06:38,170 --> 01:06:36,320 and I pulled over and sort of like I got 1287 01:06:40,000 --> 01:06:38,180 off the bike and sort of like I didn't 1288 01:06:42,670 --> 01:06:40,010 know where to walk and took me element 1289 01:06:48,370 --> 01:06:42,680 off I couldn't breathe hardly what's up 1290 01:06:51,870 --> 01:06:48,380 yeah you know and then you know there's 1291 01:06:54,700 --> 01:06:51,880 other instances where again 1292 01:06:59,080 --> 01:06:54,710 riding and I came across this tunnel 1293 01:07:01,900 --> 01:06:59,090 again then I'm in my bedroom and the 1294 01:07:04,270 --> 01:07:01,910 wall turned black and these like shadows 1295 01:07:08,440 --> 01:07:04,280 walked through and started communicating 1296 01:07:10,780 --> 01:07:08,450 with me at this time I was up in my 1297 01:07:13,450 --> 01:07:10,790 bedroom listening to her music and I'm 1298 01:07:15,970 --> 01:07:13,460 just looking at the wall turning black 1299 01:07:19,930 --> 01:07:15,980 and these things come in from my sister 1300 01:07:23,230 --> 01:07:19,940 had gone to the toilet upstairs and she 1301 01:07:25,570 --> 01:07:23,240 could hear me talking to somebody she 1302 01:07:29,440 --> 01:07:25,580 fell you know and the door was ajar 1303 01:07:32,530 --> 01:07:29,450 soething and sort of like that walked 1304 01:07:35,800 --> 01:07:32,540 away and the paul these images in my 1305 01:07:38,170 --> 01:07:35,810 head were telling me things and then I 1306 01:07:42,790 --> 01:07:38,180 started being out I started really being 1307 01:07:45,670 --> 01:07:42,800 know that night and I was taken to 1308 01:07:47,560 --> 01:07:45,680 hospital within a few days hmm 1309 01:07:50,680 --> 01:07:47,570 Oh what what were they what were they 1310 01:07:53,140 --> 01:07:50,690 saying to you he said they communicated 1311 01:07:57,640 --> 01:07:53,150 with you do remember did yeah yeah there 1312 01:08:00,130 --> 01:07:57,650 was communicating in the same way as you 1313 01:08:01,840 --> 01:08:00,140 know when I first seen this screen and a 1314 01:08:04,270 --> 01:08:01,850 solid ground and they were sawing me 1315 01:08:06,100 --> 01:08:04,280 images and there was sound sound like 1316 01:08:08,670 --> 01:08:06,110 different to the images if you know I 1317 01:08:12,940 --> 01:08:08,680 mean when one of them came up to me and 1318 01:08:15,670 --> 01:08:12,950 he told me something right yeah and then 1319 01:08:17,200 --> 01:08:15,680 when my sister walk you know coming up 1320 01:08:19,690 --> 01:08:17,210 the steps in my view to the bathroom 1321 01:08:21,849 --> 01:08:19,700 these things just basically about turned 1322 01:08:25,920 --> 01:08:21,859 and walked through this black wall and 1323 01:08:28,390 --> 01:08:25,930 back out and I'm telling you sister oh 1324 01:08:30,610 --> 01:08:28,400 you talking then look you know 1325 01:08:33,039 --> 01:08:30,620 well she said there's nobody there and 1326 01:08:34,300 --> 01:08:33,049 she went down and that you know I saw 1327 01:08:37,150 --> 01:08:34,310 why that's when she was saying I think 1328 01:08:40,030 --> 01:08:37,160 there's a problem by but he's talking to 1329 01:08:41,950 --> 01:08:40,040 and we had the out sort of like blessed 1330 01:08:43,870 --> 01:08:41,960 and everything is this guy came on his 1331 01:08:46,780 --> 01:08:43,880 spiritualist and he blessed the outs 1332 01:08:51,190 --> 01:08:46,790 every room with in my view and then you 1333 01:08:54,220 --> 01:08:51,200 know saw what kind of occasions again 1334 01:08:56,920 --> 01:08:54,230 where my girlfriend saw me being taken 1335 01:08:59,079 --> 01:08:56,930 by one of these things in the cemetery 1336 01:09:02,860 --> 01:08:59,089 with three of her friends right yeah 1337 01:09:04,519 --> 01:09:02,870 right see are we all right for time I'm 1338 01:09:08,089 --> 01:09:04,529 just looking to 1339 01:09:09,620 --> 01:09:08,099 all right for time you and I said we 1340 01:09:11,870 --> 01:09:09,630 better get out of here because I could 1341 01:09:14,660 --> 01:09:11,880 see these shovels on this we're a 1342 01:09:17,959 --> 01:09:14,670 massive 15-foot wall around the cemetery 1343 01:09:18,829 --> 01:09:17,969 and so look I could see the shadow let's 1344 01:09:21,950 --> 01:09:18,839 get out of here 1345 01:09:24,709 --> 01:09:21,960 last blast one backer says to crickey 1346 01:09:27,829 --> 01:09:24,719 Club ass to pay for rounds you know John 1347 01:09:29,809 --> 01:09:27,839 him and pretending her room and so they 1348 01:09:31,760 --> 01:09:29,819 run in front she stopped and she looked 1349 01:09:34,029 --> 01:09:31,770 around and she said this thing took me 1350 01:09:37,370 --> 01:09:34,039 it disappeared in front of her eyes 1351 01:09:39,979 --> 01:09:37,380 Wow all right well we're gonna have to 1352 01:09:42,829 --> 01:09:39,989 stop right here because we have to go to 1353 01:09:44,149 --> 01:09:42,839 our bottom of the hour break rest so 1354 01:09:47,990 --> 01:09:44,159 when we come back we'll continue our 1355 01:09:51,200 --> 01:09:48,000 conversation with Russ and viola right 1356 01:09:59,030 --> 01:09:51,210 here on exploring the bizarre so stay 1357 01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:03,180 now back to exploring the bazaar with 1358 01:10:08,760 --> 01:10:05,770 two of the most electrifying researchers 1359 01:10:15,090 --> 01:10:08,770 in the Paranoid your hosts Timothy 1360 01:10:17,720 --> 01:10:15,100 beckylyn and Taylor Swift's alright 1361 01:10:22,490 --> 01:10:17,730 welcome back to exploring the bazaar and 1362 01:10:24,300 --> 01:10:22,500 I want to ask a flora Violetta a 1363 01:10:27,780 --> 01:10:24,310 question 1364 01:10:31,950 --> 01:10:27,790 Florie in the previous segment you 1365 01:10:35,670 --> 01:10:31,960 talked about how you and your son were 1366 01:10:38,370 --> 01:10:35,680 at your friend's house and he had to go 1367 01:10:40,290 --> 01:10:38,380 outside because he was scared by but 1368 01:10:44,250 --> 01:10:40,300 basically sounds like poltergeist 1369 01:10:48,110 --> 01:10:44,260 activity and you know I don't know if 1370 01:10:52,730 --> 01:10:48,120 you you realize but a lot of times 1371 01:10:59,220 --> 01:10:52,740 poltergeist activity and UFO sightings 1372 01:11:01,130 --> 01:10:59,230 go hand in hand so had this activity 1373 01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:01,140 been going on in your friend's house 1374 01:11:11,520 --> 01:11:06,330 before 2016 when you would you two first 1375 01:11:12,030 --> 01:11:11,530 you know Sawyer your first UFO or did it 1376 01:11:15,720 --> 01:11:12,040 start 1377 01:11:17,990 --> 01:11:15,730 afterwards it had been going on for 1378 01:11:23,640 --> 01:11:18,000 quite some time before I met her in 1379 01:11:27,390 --> 01:11:23,650 about 2007 2008 and yeah it was nothing 1380 01:11:29,790 --> 01:11:27,400 new to her house so when that happened I 1381 01:11:32,310 --> 01:11:29,800 kind of tried to reassure my son that 1382 01:11:34,110 --> 01:11:32,320 everything was going to be okay because 1383 01:11:36,600 --> 01:11:34,120 stuff like that would happen from time 1384 01:11:38,850 --> 01:11:36,610 to time and I wasn't aware of the 1385 01:11:41,850 --> 01:11:38,860 connection between those types of 1386 01:11:43,470 --> 01:11:41,860 occurrences and UFO activity until you 1387 01:11:46,950 --> 01:11:43,480 know in the past couple of years when 1388 01:11:51,090 --> 01:11:46,960 you know since the UFO activity began 1389 01:11:53,850 --> 01:11:51,100 for us and yeah so it's pretty 1390 01:11:56,310 --> 01:11:53,860 interesting the link there well do you 1391 01:11:59,190 --> 01:11:56,320 do you think that I mean you've had all 1392 01:12:01,800 --> 01:11:59,200 these repeated experiences do you think 1393 01:12:04,440 --> 01:12:01,810 that they and again I use that in quote 1394 01:12:07,040 --> 01:12:04,450 marks whoever they may be are aware of 1395 01:12:11,040 --> 01:12:07,050 your presence 1396 01:12:14,609 --> 01:12:11,050 sometimes yes it seems that at times 1397 01:12:18,330 --> 01:12:14,619 these these strange lights can be 1398 01:12:21,450 --> 01:12:18,340 interactive so yeah I I definitely do 1399 01:12:25,530 --> 01:12:21,460 believe on a wholly personal level that 1400 01:12:29,490 --> 01:12:25,540 they that they are aware of me and 1401 01:12:32,939 --> 01:12:29,500 whoever else there that they that might 1402 01:12:36,990 --> 01:12:32,949 be aware of them well I'm wondering is 1403 01:12:41,280 --> 01:12:37,000 it because that you've given them some 1404 01:12:44,819 --> 01:12:41,290 attention of and have acknowledge their 1405 01:12:49,020 --> 01:12:44,829 existence where other people might not 1406 01:12:53,750 --> 01:12:49,030 or is there something about the the area 1407 01:12:55,979 --> 01:12:53,760 in which you reside or is it you 1408 01:12:59,430 --> 01:12:55,989 that's something I'm trying to figure 1409 01:13:01,410 --> 01:12:59,440 out still to this day I considered all 1410 01:13:03,959 --> 01:13:01,420 three possibilities but I really feel 1411 01:13:06,839 --> 01:13:03,969 like if people you know wake up a little 1412 01:13:08,850 --> 01:13:06,849 bit and pay attention to what's going on 1413 01:13:10,740 --> 01:13:08,860 around them pay attention to their 1414 01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:10,750 surroundings that they might actually 1415 01:13:16,319 --> 01:13:12,489 discover for themselves that there's a 1416 01:13:20,100 --> 01:13:16,329 little bit more out there than now if 1417 01:13:22,800 --> 01:13:20,110 you say if you think about this and that 1418 01:13:24,750 --> 01:13:22,810 there were other other people there I 1419 01:13:26,609 --> 01:13:24,760 mean there never been more than a 1420 01:13:30,330 --> 01:13:26,619 handful of people there or three or four 1421 01:13:33,859 --> 01:13:30,340 people the most correct yeah all right 1422 01:13:36,930 --> 01:13:33,869 well suppose you had a larger group 1423 01:13:40,470 --> 01:13:36,940 could use some in them I mean can you 1424 01:13:42,810 --> 01:13:40,480 say holy hell as you know come down and 1425 01:13:44,879 --> 01:13:42,820 appear for me at such-and-such a time I 1426 01:13:47,280 --> 01:13:44,889 mean have you ever tried doing that I've 1427 01:13:51,209 --> 01:13:47,290 tried to reach out to other people in 1428 01:13:54,020 --> 01:13:51,219 Virginia that have experienced UFO 1429 01:13:57,450 --> 01:13:54,030 activity and other activity kind of 1430 01:14:00,209 --> 01:13:57,460 around this area and I've been able to 1431 01:14:02,370 --> 01:14:00,219 connect with an awesome UFO group the 1432 01:14:04,950 --> 01:14:02,380 UFO Club of Virginia based out of 1433 01:14:06,569 --> 01:14:04,960 Virginia Beach just like a unit front 1434 01:14:09,209 --> 01:14:06,579 yeah I I know they've had some sightings 1435 01:14:13,020 --> 01:14:09,219 of Virginia Beach over the last a couple 1436 01:14:16,500 --> 01:14:13,030 of years I think I've even seen a video 1437 01:14:18,810 --> 01:14:16,510 or so on YouTube yeah yeah it's it's an 1438 01:14:19,770 --> 01:14:18,820 amazing group and I'm really lucky to 1439 01:14:21,600 --> 01:14:19,780 have 1440 01:14:23,520 --> 01:14:21,610 been able to become a part of their 1441 01:14:27,090 --> 01:14:23,530 group and been in touch with them 1442 01:14:29,120 --> 01:14:27,100 because really in Virginia at least 1443 01:14:31,290 --> 01:14:29,130 there there are not many people that are 1444 01:14:33,870 --> 01:14:31,300 open to coming forward with their 1445 01:14:37,320 --> 01:14:33,880 experiences so it's been a great a great 1446 01:14:39,870 --> 01:14:37,330 support system now but what I'm trying 1447 01:14:44,370 --> 01:14:39,880 to get at could do you think that you 1448 01:14:46,470 --> 01:14:44,380 could summon the these these objects I 1449 01:14:49,830 --> 01:14:46,480 mean to appear is there any way of 1450 01:14:52,709 --> 01:14:49,840 communicating with them more directly um 1451 01:14:55,740 --> 01:14:52,719 like I said I in my experience they've 1452 01:14:57,540 --> 01:14:55,750 been a little bit interactive especially 1453 01:15:00,060 --> 01:14:57,550 the balls of light that tend to come 1454 01:15:04,200 --> 01:15:00,070 closer to the ground you know a little 1455 01:15:07,260 --> 01:15:04,210 bit lower than the sky itself but you 1456 01:15:11,430 --> 01:15:07,270 know I haven't actually tried a group of 1457 01:15:13,860 --> 01:15:11,440 us at summoning them you know sort of 1458 01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:13,870 speak so you know that's I guess gets to 1459 01:15:18,840 --> 01:15:16,570 be answered well okay well what what 1460 01:15:20,189 --> 01:15:18,850 about have you ever you know had an 1461 01:15:21,780 --> 01:15:20,199 instance where you say you've been in 1462 01:15:23,640 --> 01:15:21,790 the house and you're like you know we 1463 01:15:24,870 --> 01:15:23,650 need to go outside right now because I 1464 01:15:27,570 --> 01:15:24,880 have the feeling something's going to 1465 01:15:29,520 --> 01:15:27,580 happen and then it does yeah absolutely 1466 01:15:32,970 --> 01:15:29,530 that's happened and stuff has happened 1467 01:15:37,320 --> 01:15:32,980 but in those cases it's either myself 1468 01:15:39,900 --> 01:15:37,330 alone or my best friend and I and you 1469 01:15:41,490 --> 01:15:39,910 know it's not it's it's it's just 1470 01:15:43,890 --> 01:15:41,500 something that happens as it happens 1471 01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:43,900 it's not anything that where we've have 1472 01:15:48,920 --> 01:15:46,330 a large group of people that have been 1473 01:15:51,689 --> 01:15:48,930 willing to try to try and participate 1474 01:15:56,060 --> 01:15:51,699 it's really hard to find people I guess 1475 01:15:59,220 --> 01:15:56,070 in in my area at least where you know it 1476 01:16:01,350 --> 01:15:59,230 this shared common interest has brought 1477 01:16:03,240 --> 01:16:01,360 us together you know we're able to go 1478 01:16:05,250 --> 01:16:03,250 out on you know such a given night like 1479 01:16:07,110 --> 01:16:05,260 that where we feel like something's 1480 01:16:08,729 --> 01:16:07,120 gonna happen but yes that that has 1481 01:16:10,830 --> 01:16:08,739 happened where you know we've had a 1482 01:16:15,030 --> 01:16:10,840 feeling we've gone outside stuff has 1483 01:16:18,990 --> 01:16:15,040 happened well you know our our friend in 1484 01:16:23,820 --> 01:16:19,000 Tucson Allen Benz has the world UFO 1485 01:16:25,950 --> 01:16:23,830 group in every year I think well I don't 1486 01:16:27,959 --> 01:16:25,960 know if it's exactly on June 24th the 1487 01:16:30,450 --> 01:16:27,969 anniversary of Kenneth Arnold's sighting 1488 01:16:33,510 --> 01:16:30,460 or not but around that time they usually 1489 01:16:36,780 --> 01:16:33,520 have a worldwide UFO sky 1490 01:16:41,730 --> 01:16:36,790 watch maybe next year we can all 1491 01:16:45,180 --> 01:16:41,740 participate and and see if we can get 1492 01:16:47,970 --> 01:16:45,190 some acknowledgment I mean you would 1493 01:16:53,250 --> 01:16:47,980 think it him that it at some point here 1494 01:16:56,220 --> 01:16:53,260 I mean we have had thousands tens of 1495 01:16:59,010 --> 01:16:56,230 thousands of sightings of something 1496 01:17:03,410 --> 01:16:59,020 strange in the sky on the ground in your 1497 01:17:07,710 --> 01:17:03,420 home all around us that at some point 1498 01:17:11,100 --> 01:17:07,720 they would want to make contact with 1499 01:17:14,940 --> 01:17:11,110 more than just one or two individuals I 1500 01:17:19,430 --> 01:17:14,950 mean is is there no ultimate goal here 1501 01:17:20,930 --> 01:17:19,440 or yeah yeah see I I think your 1502 01:17:24,300 --> 01:17:20,940 anthropomorphizing 1503 01:17:28,230 --> 01:17:24,310 the the phenomena you know I mean you're 1504 01:17:32,430 --> 01:17:28,240 you're thinking like a human and you 1505 01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:32,440 know I you know myself I think that you 1506 01:17:37,560 --> 01:17:34,090 know we're dealing with something that's 1507 01:17:43,230 --> 01:17:37,570 completely you know outside of our range 1508 01:17:47,820 --> 01:17:43,240 of understanding that a whatever it is 1509 01:17:51,090 --> 01:17:47,830 it has the ability to make itself 1510 01:17:54,750 --> 01:17:51,100 apparent in ways that are understandable 1511 01:17:56,640 --> 01:17:54,760 to us but ultimately whatever it is 1512 01:18:00,060 --> 01:17:56,650 whatever the intelligence is that's 1513 01:18:00,920 --> 01:18:00,070 behind it is completely beyond our 1514 01:18:04,740 --> 01:18:00,930 understanding 1515 01:18:06,510 --> 01:18:04,750 well rust you you've had that closer you 1516 01:18:09,360 --> 01:18:06,520 know and count more than closing a 1517 01:18:12,510 --> 01:18:09,370 really close encounters do you see some 1518 01:18:14,790 --> 01:18:12,520 ultimate the gold here I mean is there 1519 01:18:16,410 --> 01:18:14,800 anything that you've experienced that 1520 01:18:19,620 --> 01:18:16,420 would lead us to believe that there 1521 01:18:22,260 --> 01:18:19,630 might be a final outcome to all of this 1522 01:18:22,740 --> 01:18:22,270 oh hell yeah the government know all 1523 01:18:27,660 --> 01:18:22,750 about it 1524 01:18:31,290 --> 01:18:27,670 you know they've definitely got to know 1525 01:18:34,350 --> 01:18:31,300 about I mean these things invading not 1526 01:18:37,980 --> 01:18:34,360 only bit our airspace these things are 1527 01:18:41,100 --> 01:18:37,990 actually landing like I said the unit 1528 01:18:45,660 --> 01:18:41,110 this alien unit I know for certain have 1529 01:18:47,310 --> 01:18:45,670 seen them you know as well on TV wearing 1530 01:18:50,520 --> 01:18:47,320 sneekybeeky gear 1531 01:18:53,310 --> 01:18:50,530 you know Oh who's gonna know exactly who 1532 01:18:55,350 --> 01:18:53,320 they are you know sort of like when 1533 01:18:58,950 --> 01:18:55,360 they're already sneaky be a be kinky 1534 01:19:01,080 --> 01:18:58,960 like special forces and the turn up you 1535 01:19:04,110 --> 01:19:01,090 know and you just know there's something 1536 01:19:06,420 --> 01:19:04,120 going on more than what people say you 1537 01:19:08,460 --> 01:19:06,430 know you can't rely on the news anymore 1538 01:19:10,440 --> 01:19:08,470 to tell you anything to be quite honest 1539 01:19:12,480 --> 01:19:10,450 you know if somebody from the government 1540 01:19:17,490 --> 01:19:12,490 tells you something you know just take 1541 01:19:20,270 --> 01:19:17,500 it as read you know it is a case of yeah 1542 01:19:24,330 --> 01:19:20,280 read it and leave it you know some like 1543 01:19:27,090 --> 01:19:24,340 politicians and you know it's just one 1544 01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:27,100 of these things where you know I know in 1545 01:19:32,220 --> 01:19:29,770 my own mind what's happened to me I've 1546 01:19:34,980 --> 01:19:32,230 lost friends through all this you know 1547 01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:34,990 you're talking about earlier and can you 1548 01:19:39,690 --> 01:19:37,210 call these things these things are 1549 01:19:42,570 --> 01:19:39,700 around me all the time I've moved 80 1550 01:19:45,920 --> 01:19:42,580 miles away to live on the coast I go out 1551 01:19:48,510 --> 01:19:45,930 if I take me video camera there about 1552 01:19:51,660 --> 01:19:48,520 you can see on my footage there around 1553 01:19:54,630 --> 01:19:51,670 me and as for calling them you know you 1554 01:19:57,360 --> 01:19:54,640 I don't want to bring them down I don't 1555 01:20:00,930 --> 01:19:57,370 want them to come believe me I'm not 1556 01:20:02,520 --> 01:20:00,940 particularly happy with what happens to 1557 01:20:04,590 --> 01:20:02,530 be put in a military unit with these 1558 01:20:06,900 --> 01:20:04,600 with these creatures and have to do 1559 01:20:07,230 --> 01:20:06,910 their bidding you know they're up to no 1560 01:20:13,530 --> 01:20:07,240 good 1561 01:20:16,530 --> 01:20:13,540 think that they are all of the same 1562 01:20:19,830 --> 01:20:16,540 source I mean when you say they were up 1563 01:20:22,770 --> 01:20:19,840 to no good I mean are there no and a 1564 01:20:24,900 --> 01:20:22,780 positive well and say aliens I call 1565 01:20:28,680 --> 01:20:24,910 alter terrestrials but are there no 1566 01:20:32,520 --> 01:20:28,690 positive groups there well yes oppose 1567 01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:32,530 the ones that define you know and you 1568 01:20:39,660 --> 01:20:35,410 know it's a case of there's so many I 1569 01:20:41,640 --> 01:20:39,670 mean the targets that we get you know 1570 01:20:43,860 --> 01:20:41,650 sort of like in the locations that where 1571 01:20:47,310 --> 01:20:43,870 we've been taken you know there's so 1572 01:20:51,480 --> 01:20:47,320 many different and you could say armies 1573 01:20:53,460 --> 01:20:51,490 are fighting my unit and and also on 1574 01:20:56,670 --> 01:20:53,470 this planet as well not only over 1575 01:20:58,110 --> 01:20:56,680 planets but on this planet you know and 1576 01:21:00,100 --> 01:20:58,120 you're not going you're not going to 1577 01:21:01,960 --> 01:21:00,110 read about this in the paper 1578 01:21:05,850 --> 01:21:01,970 you know i mean i can remember when i 1579 01:21:08,590 --> 01:21:05,860 when i told somebody about my story and 1580 01:21:11,410 --> 01:21:08,600 you know showed video they're interested 1581 01:21:12,790 --> 01:21:11,420 in me videos for a magazine yeah but 1582 01:21:14,590 --> 01:21:12,800 there wasn't interested in me talking 1583 01:21:17,020 --> 01:21:14,600 about being part of a unit and me 1584 01:21:21,790 --> 01:21:17,030 drawings and pictures you know sort of 1585 01:21:24,340 --> 01:21:21,800 like of our clove what cloves often we 1586 01:21:26,730 --> 01:21:24,350 where there's insignia all these sort of 1587 01:21:30,040 --> 01:21:26,740 things so your your bet you're basically 1588 01:21:33,750 --> 01:21:30,050 living well it's almost like a philip k 1589 01:21:36,670 --> 01:21:33,760 dick existence in two different realms 1590 01:21:39,820 --> 01:21:36,680 exactly yeah and this is why a this is 1591 01:21:42,520 --> 01:21:39,830 my me medical reports show me the doctor 1592 01:21:45,250 --> 01:21:42,530 you know i've got me files ear and we're 1593 01:21:48,400 --> 01:21:45,260 past why does the doctor said you know 1594 01:21:50,920 --> 01:21:48,410 and he says clearly there you know mr. 1595 01:21:52,840 --> 01:21:50,930 Kelly he's in a UFO group why would they 1596 01:21:56,860 --> 01:21:52,850 want to put mr. Kelly he's in a UFO 1597 01:21:59,560 --> 01:21:56,870 group you know what I mean an officer in 1598 01:22:01,780 --> 01:21:59,570 the Middle East in in the goal I know 1599 01:22:04,000 --> 01:22:01,790 for certain there was extraterrestrials 1600 01:22:07,470 --> 01:22:04,010 fighting I know that it's a number of 1601 01:22:11,350 --> 01:22:07,480 craft that had been shot down you know 1602 01:22:14,680 --> 01:22:11,360 an officer and we was over there my 1603 01:22:16,720 --> 01:22:14,690 Union was over there you know what was 1604 01:22:18,040 --> 01:22:16,730 it all about and I can tell you now 1605 01:22:19,660 --> 01:22:18,050 there's there's something what they're 1606 01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:19,670 looking for is some technology what 1607 01:22:25,660 --> 01:22:22,730 they're looking for right yeah some 1608 01:22:29,310 --> 01:22:25,670 ultimate technology because a lot of the 1609 01:22:33,550 --> 01:22:29,320 sides including you know our own 1610 01:22:36,850 --> 01:22:33,560 government have got some of the actual 1611 01:22:39,220 --> 01:22:36,860 technology but not all of it and I think 1612 01:22:41,830 --> 01:22:39,230 that they're looking for some technology 1613 01:22:44,140 --> 01:22:41,840 some lost technology as well for the 1614 01:22:45,100 --> 01:22:44,150 ultimate you know saw like kawase will 1615 01:22:47,830 --> 01:22:45,110 probably win 1616 01:22:50,580 --> 01:22:47,840 oh yeah well there there were rumors 1617 01:22:54,580 --> 01:22:50,590 going around you know like during the 1618 01:22:56,290 --> 01:22:54,590 first and and second Gulf Wars that the 1619 01:22:58,810 --> 01:22:56,300 whole reason that that was going on the 1620 01:23:00,520 --> 01:22:58,820 invasion of Iraq was that the United 1621 01:23:02,140 --> 01:23:00,530 States government was looking for some 1622 01:23:05,800 --> 01:23:02,150 kind of ancient technology 1623 01:23:08,410 --> 01:23:05,810 oh there's no doubt you know and the 1624 01:23:10,990 --> 01:23:08,420 thing is some of the technology what 1625 01:23:13,870 --> 01:23:11,000 I've seen what we've used them myself 1626 01:23:15,910 --> 01:23:13,880 you know you will call it magic 1627 01:23:17,590 --> 01:23:15,920 then again the weaponry isn't magic 1628 01:23:21,189 --> 01:23:17,600 having said that I mean the weapons lock 1629 01:23:23,590 --> 01:23:21,199 wheels like a cell abused have been 1630 01:23:24,100 --> 01:23:23,600 solved like sound weapons I have seen as 1631 01:23:26,620 --> 01:23:24,110 yours 1632 01:23:29,830 --> 01:23:26,630 our so-called modern technology as well 1633 01:23:35,229 --> 01:23:29,840 para bellum rounds you know machine 1634 01:23:38,709 --> 01:23:35,239 pistols etc for I've also seen something 1635 01:23:42,820 --> 01:23:38,719 very spooky in the room what I was in 1636 01:23:46,180 --> 01:23:42,830 weathers like what you call it a pillory 1637 01:23:48,910 --> 01:23:46,190 each side with these knobs but these 1638 01:23:52,120 --> 01:23:48,920 like plasma balls and being in the 1639 01:23:55,419 --> 01:23:52,130 middle touching these in his checkered 1640 01:23:58,590 --> 01:23:55,429 board room with all these like what you 1641 01:24:03,459 --> 01:23:58,600 could only describe was like night bike 1642 01:24:08,620 --> 01:24:03,469 all night you know but I have traveled 1643 01:24:11,530 --> 01:24:08,630 with these light all these plasma type 1644 01:24:13,979 --> 01:24:11,540 craft I won't say too much because I'm 1645 01:24:16,689 --> 01:24:13,989 almost waiting for the person to tell me 1646 01:24:18,820 --> 01:24:16,699 don't always think he's flying saucers 1647 01:24:21,250 --> 01:24:18,830 you know and sort of like flying 1648 01:24:22,629 --> 01:24:21,260 triangles also although our video flying 1649 01:24:25,810 --> 01:24:22,639 triangles come out of the sea where 1650 01:24:28,030 --> 01:24:25,820 where Olivia Omaha view and but you know 1651 01:24:30,700 --> 01:24:28,040 it's a case of it's not always what 1652 01:24:33,160 --> 01:24:30,710 people think you know and I'm always 1653 01:24:36,100 --> 01:24:33,170 listening now you know I'm almost 1654 01:24:39,340 --> 01:24:36,110 listening out just to see if there's 1655 01:24:41,280 --> 01:24:39,350 anybody I've been told by little people 1656 01:24:46,300 --> 01:24:41,290 that yeah they're in the same unit 1657 01:24:48,310 --> 01:24:46,310 there's myself you know now they were 1658 01:24:49,899 --> 01:24:48,320 able to go ahead to him I'm sorry no I 1659 01:24:51,520 --> 01:24:49,909 was just gonna say yeah there're a 1660 01:24:55,629 --> 01:24:51,530 couple incidents where you say they've 1661 01:25:00,610 --> 01:24:55,639 actually been skirmishes between the 1662 01:25:03,760 --> 01:25:00,620 military and and and these objects I 1663 01:25:07,770 --> 01:25:03,770 know once quite a number of years ago 1664 01:25:11,200 --> 01:25:07,780 right now and when I was talking to 1665 01:25:12,669 --> 01:25:11,210 somebody in Special Air Service and they 1666 01:25:14,979 --> 01:25:12,679 always used to take the Mickey I used to 1667 01:25:18,340 --> 01:25:14,989 make military equipment right yeah I 1668 01:25:22,300 --> 01:25:18,350 used to have a shop etc and don't do a 1669 01:25:24,910 --> 01:25:22,310 lot of pain Bali and you know sort of 1670 01:25:27,930 --> 01:25:24,920 like one of the guys turn around and 1671 01:25:31,979 --> 01:25:27,940 they said that the Devine in Ireland 1672 01:25:38,189 --> 01:25:31,989 where they've actually had contact with 1673 01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:38,199 a Crafton aliens now Thursday I notice 1674 01:25:45,689 --> 01:25:43,810 here on Amazon there is a book and now 1675 01:25:49,290 --> 01:25:45,699 you didn't write it yourself but I guess 1676 01:25:54,090 --> 01:25:49,300 it it includes a lot of your information 1677 01:25:56,729 --> 01:25:54,100 and material by Stephen Lumley that's 1678 01:25:58,709 --> 01:25:56,739 right yeah yeah yeah I we didn't we 1679 01:26:02,360 --> 01:25:58,719 didn't mention that it's the the Brian 1680 01:26:04,709 --> 01:26:02,370 Mountain incident that's right yeah 1681 01:26:08,670 --> 01:26:04,719 well I've got a book file to be quite 1682 01:26:12,800 --> 01:26:08,680 honest it there's so much of it from the 1683 01:26:17,340 --> 01:26:12,810 actual night from the Constabulary and 1684 01:26:19,290 --> 01:26:17,350 the there you call incident reports and 1685 01:26:21,870 --> 01:26:19,300 there's all the people's names 1686 01:26:24,450 --> 01:26:21,880 telephone numbers and everything in 1687 01:26:28,410 --> 01:26:24,460 those reports in in those files I should 1688 01:26:30,750 --> 01:26:28,420 say and I actually went I've met people 1689 01:26:32,880 --> 01:26:30,760 that was there on the night these five 1690 01:26:35,970 --> 01:26:32,890 gentleman that was there I met a couple 1691 01:26:38,790 --> 01:26:35,980 of them because they're all passed over 1692 01:26:42,920 --> 01:26:38,800 the years have passed away you know you 1693 01:26:46,140 --> 01:26:42,930 know it's just one of these things but 1694 01:26:48,510 --> 01:26:46,150 the telephone conversation I had with a 1695 01:26:51,450 --> 01:26:48,520 sergeant who said had been there for 1696 01:26:53,880 --> 01:26:51,460 quite some time before the incident and 1697 01:26:57,540 --> 01:26:53,890 quite some time after and there was 1698 01:27:00,240 --> 01:26:57,550 actually excavating the area and it 1699 01:27:03,630 --> 01:27:00,250 didn't it wasn't to do with UFOs or 1700 01:27:05,160 --> 01:27:03,640 aliens that they were doing but this is 1701 01:27:09,959 --> 01:27:05,170 when it all happened the old sort of 1702 01:27:12,150 --> 01:27:09,969 white kicked off if you like so you know 1703 01:27:14,790 --> 01:27:12,160 and then he went cold because the phone 1704 01:27:17,850 --> 01:27:14,800 kept on cutting off every time he ran 1705 01:27:21,120 --> 01:27:17,860 and he said I don't like this but I've 1706 01:27:22,830 --> 01:27:21,130 got the actual tapes of the sides of 1707 01:27:25,650 --> 01:27:22,840 talking about all this that was going on 1708 01:27:28,320 --> 01:27:25,660 there's a lot people that I spoke to 1709 01:27:33,780 --> 01:27:28,330 witnesses that said the military landed 1710 01:27:36,930 --> 01:27:33,790 a helicopter landed just unbelievable 1711 01:27:38,910 --> 01:27:36,940 what actually happened but I've been 1712 01:27:41,460 --> 01:27:38,920 censored every time I've been talking 1713 01:27:44,940 --> 01:27:41,470 about it people ring in and as a 1714 01:27:47,580 --> 01:27:44,950 males going Mohave you know I've been 1715 01:27:51,540 --> 01:27:47,590 blocked over the past couple year by 1716 01:27:53,130 --> 01:27:51,550 certain people from even talking so this 1717 01:27:57,600 --> 01:27:53,140 is why you won't see me talking on any 1718 01:28:01,020 --> 01:27:57,610 podiums or anything now who exactly had 1719 01:28:03,870 --> 01:28:01,030 blocked you from talking well let's put 1720 01:28:05,940 --> 01:28:03,880 this way when the documentary makers 1721 01:28:09,600 --> 01:28:05,950 have been in contact in the same yet we 1722 01:28:12,180 --> 01:28:09,610 wanting you to come on and on the show 1723 01:28:16,500 --> 01:28:12,190 and talk about your story in about the 1724 01:28:18,960 --> 01:28:16,510 berry mountains and my video footage etc 1725 01:28:22,290 --> 01:28:18,970 all of a sudden right yeah 1726 01:28:25,380 --> 01:28:22,300 it stops it ends and I spoke to her 1727 01:28:28,230 --> 01:28:25,390 amateur and he says don't repeat this 1728 01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:28,240 and do not tip me I'm telling you now 1729 01:28:32,700 --> 01:28:30,250 and he said he's named he said you 1730 01:28:35,220 --> 01:28:32,710 cannot use this he said but there's 1731 01:28:40,440 --> 01:28:35,230 somebody is said always blocking you 1732 01:28:41,160 --> 01:28:40,450 that every verse end right yeah this one 1733 01:28:44,850 --> 01:28:41,170 person 1734 01:28:52,140 --> 01:28:44,860 he's got clout and he's blocking you at 1735 01:28:55,050 --> 01:28:52,150 every verse end right yeah well what why 1736 01:28:58,890 --> 01:28:55,060 would anybody if I'm talking nonsense if 1737 01:29:01,530 --> 01:28:58,900 all this is BS right yeah let me make a 1738 01:29:04,290 --> 01:29:01,540 fool of yourself but I'm coming out and 1739 01:29:06,330 --> 01:29:04,300 talking about weaponry about uniforms 1740 01:29:08,760 --> 01:29:06,340 about insignia what we were and what the 1741 01:29:11,970 --> 01:29:08,770 alien eunuchs were where we've been I 1742 01:29:17,240 --> 01:29:11,980 would travel in the basis am I such a 1743 01:29:19,860 --> 01:29:17,250 threat now they have they have these 1744 01:29:22,590 --> 01:29:19,870 various groups they have bases right 1745 01:29:24,930 --> 01:29:22,600 here on earth because of our filmed our 1746 01:29:28,440 --> 01:29:24,940 films flying triangles coming out one of 1747 01:29:30,570 --> 01:29:28,450 the bases in the sea it's on YouTube you 1748 01:29:31,860 --> 01:29:30,580 can have a look at this a yeah yeah 1749 01:29:35,280 --> 01:29:31,870 decide for yourselves that's what's 1750 01:29:37,470 --> 01:29:35,290 there people because we've seen pictures 1751 01:29:40,740 --> 01:29:37,480 of these objects to come for coming 1752 01:29:42,990 --> 01:29:40,750 outside like it a Dulce New Mexico where 1753 01:29:45,720 --> 01:29:43,000 they seem to actually be coming through 1754 01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:45,730 the the walls of the the mountains there 1755 01:29:52,970 --> 01:29:48,730 it's like they're physical at some point 1756 01:29:54,960 --> 01:29:52,980 but they can also turn into 1757 01:29:55,380 --> 01:29:54,970 interdimensional and be able to pass 1758 01:29:57,510 --> 01:29:55,390 through 1759 01:29:59,970 --> 01:29:57,520 objects that's why a lot of people have 1760 01:30:02,160 --> 01:29:59,980 reported reported to his said oh you 1761 01:30:04,260 --> 01:30:02,170 know so-and-so came through the the 1762 01:30:06,420 --> 01:30:04,270 bedroom wall or came through the ceiling 1763 01:30:09,510 --> 01:30:06,430 or they were in the batter they were in 1764 01:30:12,720 --> 01:30:09,520 the back seat of the car with me 1765 01:30:14,850 --> 01:30:12,730 these things can that they can alter the 1766 01:30:18,300 --> 01:30:14,860 size if you ever looked there's one ball 1767 01:30:24,780 --> 01:30:18,310 in the sea right near the Shaw yeah and 1768 01:30:27,270 --> 01:30:24,790 it's a glowing sort of like white ball 1769 01:30:29,700 --> 01:30:27,280 then the next thing it becomes too and 1770 01:30:32,130 --> 01:30:29,710 then the next thing it becomes one two 1771 01:30:34,320 --> 01:30:32,140 three four five six and there's two 1772 01:30:34,860 --> 01:30:34,330 flying triangles and I film it for 1773 01:30:37,860 --> 01:30:34,870 twenty eight 1774 01:30:40,890 --> 01:30:37,870 I think it's 28 minutes I film it it 1775 01:30:43,890 --> 01:30:40,900 takes off there's lots of things coming 1776 01:30:46,100 --> 01:30:43,900 down I spoke to him an investigator I'm 1777 01:30:48,420 --> 01:30:46,110 talking to him on me more Balfour 1778 01:30:50,460 --> 01:30:48,430 finished and I said right I'm packing up 1779 01:30:52,710 --> 01:30:50,470 and going home now and then I went 1780 01:30:55,440 --> 01:30:52,720 missing for an hour now 1781 01:30:56,580 --> 01:30:55,450 now rest were coming to the other two 1782 01:31:00,930 --> 01:30:56,590 show here we only have a couple of 1783 01:31:03,930 --> 01:31:00,940 minutes where can our listeners find 1784 01:31:07,620 --> 01:31:03,940 these videos on YouTube do you have a 1785 01:31:12,330 --> 01:31:07,630 channel or until yeah he's under RG 1786 01:31:17,240 --> 01:31:12,340 Kelly and Russ moose Kelly UFO hunter 1787 01:31:22,200 --> 01:31:17,250 and you can find me British and British 1788 01:31:24,480 --> 01:31:22,210 UFO Hunters comm or the British Flying 1789 01:31:27,750 --> 01:31:24,490 Saucer Bureau I'm the head of that now 1790 01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:27,760 okay okay very good 1791 01:31:32,820 --> 01:31:30,010 yeah well we'll try to include a couple 1792 01:31:36,570 --> 01:31:32,830 of the the stills and maybe a short clip 1793 01:31:39,630 --> 01:31:36,580 in our youtube version of this show 1794 01:31:42,540 --> 01:31:39,640 which will of course our listeners can 1795 01:31:45,270 --> 01:31:42,550 find and there you are mr. UFO secret 1796 01:31:47,010 --> 01:31:45,280 files at Peter I'm sure we'll be working 1797 01:31:50,780 --> 01:31:47,020 through the night getting it prepared 1798 01:31:55,080 --> 01:31:50,790 and of course we're also on stitcher and 1799 01:31:59,150 --> 01:31:55,090 Google Play and iTunes and of course you 1800 01:32:03,480 --> 01:31:59,160 can we listen to the program on ke cor 1801 01:32:06,240 --> 01:32:03,490 radio.com and I want to thank Tim I 1802 01:32:08,880 --> 01:32:06,250 think we should thank our guests because 1803 01:32:09,210 --> 01:32:08,890 we're getting towards the midnight hour 1804 01:32:12,600 --> 01:32:09,220 here 1805 01:32:14,760 --> 01:32:12,610 on the East Coast then it's time to get 1806 01:32:17,960 --> 01:32:14,770 back into our spaceship and head out 1807 01:32:21,720 --> 01:32:17,970 into the galaxy to save the earth from 1808 01:32:23,430 --> 01:32:21,730 space invaders well yeah I especially I 1809 01:32:26,580 --> 01:32:23,440 want to thank Florrie for taking her 1810 01:32:29,520 --> 01:32:26,590 time to come on tonight and absolutely 1811 01:32:32,760 --> 01:32:29,530 yeah stay in touch with us 1812 01:32:35,280 --> 01:32:32,770 I'm glad glad we got to be done I'm glad 1813 01:32:36,840 --> 01:32:35,290 we got to be done on Facebook there are 1814 01:32:41,370 --> 01:32:36,850 some very interesting people there you 1815 01:32:43,400 --> 01:32:41,380 know I've pulled a few guests from just 1816 01:32:45,780 --> 01:32:43,410 the people I've made friends with and 1817 01:32:47,940 --> 01:32:45,790 it's some of the best information you 1818 01:32:49,140 --> 01:32:47,950 know why should we have the same guest 1819 01:32:50,850 --> 01:32:49,150 on all the time when there are a 1820 01:32:54,570 --> 01:32:50,860 multitude of people out there who have 1821 01:32:57,450 --> 01:32:54,580 had these experiences so here we are at 1822 01:33:00,990 --> 01:32:57,460 the end of another show and don't forget 1823 01:33:04,380 --> 01:33:01,000 to look us find us on Facebook you can 1824 01:33:07,170 --> 01:33:04,390 just contact Tim Buckley and Tim 1825 01:33:10,230 --> 01:33:07,180 Schwartz and of course listen to the 1826 01:33:13,200 --> 01:33:10,240 show every Thursday evening same time 1827 01:33:15,450 --> 01:33:13,210 same place and do visit our youtube 1828 01:33:18,000 --> 01:33:15,460 channel mr. UFO secret files and buy a 1829 01:33:18,900 --> 01:33:18,010 book that's what keeps us going all 1830 01:33:25,939 --> 01:33:18,910 right good night all 1831 01:33:32,150 --> 01:33:28,189 you've been listening to exploring the 1832 01:33:35,419 --> 01:33:32,160 bazaar with hosts Timothy Becky and to 1833 01:33:37,760 --> 01:33:35,429 Swartz they're taking back the night by 1834 01:33:40,340 --> 01:33:37,770 jetting non-stop across the cosmos 1835 01:33:43,370 --> 01:33:40,350 in search of the truly bizarre and 1836 01:33:44,719 --> 01:33:43,380 totally unexplained with you as their 1837 01:33:47,199 --> 01:33:44,729 combined 1838 01:33:49,589 --> 01:33:47,209 Thursday nights at 7:00 p.m. Pacific 1839 01:33:53,729 --> 01:33:49,599 10:00 p.m. 1840 01:33:56,399 --> 01:33:53,739 on the K cor digital radiator for more 1841 01:33:59,339 --> 01:33:56,409 information on exploring the bazaar and 1842 01:34:02,040 --> 01:33:59,349 hosts Timothy Beckley anthem Schwartz 1843 01:34:05,510 --> 01:34:02,050 check out their kco our digital radio 1844 01:34:21,360 --> 01:34:05,520 network follow their youtube channel at